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Hello everyone
I'm going to buy Breese chickens and I would like to know why the black are more expensive than the white?

black and white bresse are almost different breeds. White are the tasty ones and more popular thus more suppliers . Black bresse in my anactotal experience also seem to die more as chicks. Make sure not to mix them!
 
Quote: I have learned that with raising finches.....on the perch one day on the floor the next. Most of the chickens I have lost though seem to have shown some signs for a day or so t least. I got the preliminary results back on this one. It sounds like it might be Marek's.

"Neoplastic disease consistent with lymphoproliferative diseases of chickens is noted as the cause of the demise. The age and
clinical signs are most consistent with Marek's disease, microscopic exam is pending.
There are ascarid parasites found in the intestines in small numbers, most likely incidental. Influenza and salmonellosis testing
are also pending for health check"


I have only sent one other one in and that one came back only showing some coccidiosis. I treated everyone and had no other problems for a while. This one did also have a few ascarids but said it was likely incidental. I will be worming everyone now though. The eggs have tapered off again so it will be a good time.
 
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I have learned that with raising finches.....on the perch one day on the floor the next. Most of the chickens I have lost though seem to have shown some signs for a day or so t least. I got the preliminary results back on this one. It sounds like it might be Marek's.

"Neoplastic disease consistent with lymphoproliferative diseases of chickens is noted as the cause of the demise. The age and
clinical signs are most consistent with Marek's disease, microscopic exam is pending.
There are ascarid parasites found in the intestines in small numbers, most likely incidental. Influenza and salmonellosis testing
are also pending for health check"


I have only sent one other one in and that one came back only showing some coccidiosis. I treated everyone and had no other problems for a while. This one did also have a few ascarids but said it was likely incidental. I will be worming everyone now though. The eggs have tapered off again so it will be a good time.
The line of Marans you have may not be resistant to Mareks. It it is Mareks, UCD will make it sound like you will have to only have Marks vaccinated chickens. They told me that and have not had a case of mareks in two years. I have never had an initial case of mareks that sowed symptoms. I do not vaccinate for Mareks.

The Hen that died of it died of Mareks cancer which happens about two years after the initial infection. The vaccine helps protect against the cancer only and not the initial infection so the vaccine would not have helped yours..if it was marks.
 
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I have been doing a lot of reading from multiple site (some even university studies) and most all say the vaccine is pretty effective at keeping them from getting sick (up to 90%). They all say they do not prevent infection but allow the body to have antibodies already in place that help the bird's body fight the the symptoms and formation of tumors. I only have 3 other young birds and they are all from Papa Brooder eggs. He vaccinates chicks, but these were hatched here and not vaccinated. I finally got my BLRW pullet from that batch of eggs and am going to very upset if I end up losing her to this. I am hoping that since he has very good quality birds that these will have good immune systems. Not much I can do anyway. I will let you know when I get the final report. I may start vaccinating any chicks I hatch anyway since the vaccine will not hurt them.
 
I have been doing a lot of reading from multiple site (some even university studies) and most all say the vaccine is pretty effective at keeping them from getting sick (up to 90%). They all say they do not prevent infection but allow the body to have antibodies already in place that help the bird's body fight the the symptoms and formation of tumors. I only have 3 other young birds and they are all from Papa Brooder eggs. He vaccinates chicks, but these were hatched here and not vaccinated. I finally got my BLRW pullet from that batch of eggs and am going to very upset if I end up losing her to this. I am hoping that since he has very good quality birds that these will have good immune systems. Not much I can do anyway. I will let you know when I get the final report. I may start vaccinating any chicks I hatch anyway since the vaccine will not hurt them.
The research that is done is not done on the types of vaccines we have acess to. I DO vaccinate most of the chicks I send out as pets, but unless you keep them from being exposed for 2 weeks AND do it right out of the shell, its of arguable use. . If there is Maraks on your property #! is unlikely to happen, enough for max vaccine worth. If you want to know more about the chances, PM me, I don't want to confuse everyone :).
 
Just saw this on the Black Copper Marans Fancier group on FB.

PEPA and CPF – Please forward to your members; Veterinarians, please contact your clients and forward to other CA poultry veterinarians that we may not have included.
It is absolutely time to invest in separating your poultry from wild birds through use of the highest biosecurity practices available to you. In particular, separate your birds from wild birds and ensure your clean-line is... enforced. Watch your flocks for increased mortality and call the Animal Health Branch District office with ANY concerns.
Last night, HPAI H5N8 was confirmed in a backyard flock in Oregon. There were mixed domestic poultry on the premises, as well as a pond where it is known that wild ducks intermingled with free ranging domestic poultry. At this point, the initial investigation suggests there was NO movement off the property to other states. They are conducting localized surveillance and are in the process of euthanizing the affected flock. USDA has consulted with CDC and they have stated that at this point they have NO PUBLIC HEALTH concerns with this particular virus.
Our border stations are on high alert and are taking detailed trace back information from all poultry crossing our border and our veterinarians and the CAHFS Laboratory are poised to investigate any reports of disease in California.
USDA does expect some trade impacts from various trading partners.
Lock your birds up and guard the door! Let’s keep HPAI OUT of our commercial flocks, but be ready to act quickly if we do get an incursion in order to minimize the impact.
Dr Jones
Annette B. Jones, D.V.M.
State Veterinarian and Director
Animal Health and Food Safety Services
California Department of Food and Agriculture
1220 N St.
Sacramento, CA 95814
(916) 900-5000
 

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