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[casportpony]

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-Kathy

 

[Audio51]

Hey I have another management question re feed.

I feed ferment all the the time unless someone else is watching the bids for a few days then they get dry feed. Everyone is sleek and shiny and healthy

There seems to be less waste with the ferment AND because it expands and is more nutritious in general they eat less...don't ask me how much less. My numbers are in constant flux and I have had chicks at a variety of stages growing out continually for nearly a year so I have no clue,

I would love to figure a way to feed ferment that didn't include daily feeding...meaning I would love to dump a 5 gallon bucket of ferment into something and have them work on it for several days before refeeding.

Is there a way to continue to feed ferment that is less labor intensive on my part?
Am I nutty to try to keep feeding it to 35-60 birds of varying ages and sexes?
Do any of you combine ferment with dry?
What bulk feeders do you use/have you made?

I spend easily 20-45 minutes feeding. It would be so nice most mornings to let them out and be done with it and fill waters in the evenings.

I have been feeding fermented for about 1 1/2 years and have not figured out a way to be able to feed more than 1 day at a time. If you feed other types of feed with it, you are defeating part of the benefit (digestive) and decreased cost). I have to g out daily to let the girls out of the secure pen into the bigger pen anyway so don't mind feeding it daily, but I don't have nearly as many birds as you do (only about 18)

Quote: So glad to hear she is doing better and that she was just hiding. Those ones that have problems and recover always seem to have a special place in our hearts and are harder to lose than the other. My blue Ameraucana with the missing foot and another one that was sick are a couple for me that I have a special attachment to.

Can anyone tell me what you think is a fair price for a 7 week old Blue Mottled (project) Orpington roo?

ETA pic

Are they well marked or culls? I paid $65 for 5 pullets about that age from NorCal. They all had the wrong color legs, but I am not breeding them so didn't care about leg color.

The seramas im sure were coldbut the polish im going to send off

I have heard Seramas re not very cold tolerant, but ig you are sending the Polish I would also sent one of them. You have lost a lot of birds lately and I would certainly want confirmation of the cause.

 

[EZFarms]

it could just be something as simple as a draft in the coop making them to cold.ill send them monday

 

[ZoiChick]

it could just be something as simple as a draft in the coop making them to cold.ill send them monday

It's never simple is it?

 

[EZFarms]

im hoping its simple. i DE'd everyone and the coop yesterday because there were lice so that could be the culprit to

 

[casportpony]

I hate to say it, but DE won't treat lice and mites, trust me, I tried. Get some poultry dust or 5% Sevin.

-kathy

 

[rancher hicks]

I hate to say it, but DE won't treat lice and mites, trust me, I tried. Get some poultry dust or 5% Sevin.

-kathy

I have used DE from the very beginning and I've never had a problem with mites or other like things.

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[ronott1]

I hate to say it, but DE won't treat lice and mites, trust me, I tried. Get some poultry dust or 5% Sevin.

-kathy

Thanks Kathy for helping!

It is frustrating sometimes when lice have been resistant so long at a BYC friends place. It makes me want to go there and help them.

I hope the lice are controlled at nikki's place soon. DE has not worked for her so the responsible and correct use of an insecticide is a very correct thing to suggest.

 

[casportpony]

For those interested, I purchased 40-50 pounds of food grade DE and put it *everywhere* but my birds still got lice. Next step was dusting them with it, so that's what I did and it had zero effect on the lice.

I've also tried ivermectin to treat lice and it didn't work either. The products that work for me are poultry dust, 5% Sevin and the very expensive Vetra 3D.

I prefer poultry dust to 5% Sevin and have used it on many birds, including very young and very sick ones with no ill effects. You can find poultry dust at most feedstores that sell poultry supplies. Cost should be $6-$9 for two pounds.

-Kathy

 

[EZFarms]

For those interested, I purchased 40-50 pounds of food grade DE and put it *everywhere* but my birds still got lice. Next step was dusting them with it, so that's what I did and it had zero effect on the lice.

I've also tried ivermectin to treat lice and it didn't work either. The products that work for me are poultry dust, 5% Sevin and the very expensive Vetra 3D.

I prefer poultry dust to 5% Sevin and have used it on many birds, including very young and very sick ones with no ill effects. You can find poultry dust at most feedstores that sell poultry supplies. Cost should be $6-$9 for two pounds.

-Kathy

i used DE on my birds last night and i looked earlier and dont see any lice on my sebright hen who had alot on her