California - Northern

[EZFarms]

i am taking care of it. im keeping better tabs on birds,cleaning out/bleaching coops when i clean them, checking everyone daily, and i messaged my 4-H leader yesterday im still waiting for an email back from her.

i think what may of happened was i treated once then got busy and didnt treat again (got the adults but not the nits that hatched out) i am making sure to keep tabs this time though. im hoping the cold weather will help to kill them off as well (the lice not the birds)

The lice at your place was not gone and is not gone now. If it were gone, it would not have come back that quickly. Since chickens are dying from it, verified by a UCD Necropsy, you need to do a lot more than DE and Sevin to get rid of them.

Get help from your 4-H leader.

 

[sewandgrow]

Just returned from the Fresno Poultry Show. I brought a cage to maybe find something to bring home but was concerned about lice since I really don't have a plan yet on how to deal with them and was concerned I might introduce problems I'm not already dealing with.

Right off I walked over to the sell area and next to me was a show official and vendor auguring about something. The official proceeds to pull out a chicken, turns it over and I could see tiny bugs everywhere.

I didn't stick around to see what happened. Decided to forgo purchasing any birds either. Other than that, I had fun.

I bought quail eggs from the sale area & Jules bought birds from Sherry that I am sure have no problems. Buyer beware but lice are treatable & I myself was shocked to buy birds with lice one time from a very reputable breeder that only discovered them at POS & treated them immediately. You would hope that the birds you take to a show sales area would be checked for that though.
I am sorry I didn't meet you while there. My red walker & I made me easy to spot.......LOL But......I did get through the whole show floor & saw everything & stayed for lunch with chicken friends before driving back home to Turlock.

 

[sewandgrow]

It is very nice here today too!

It is beautiful in Turlock today.

 

[PetRock]

I bought quail eggs from the sale area & Jules bought birds from Sherry that I am sure have no problems. Buyer beware but lice are treatable & I myself was shocked to buy birds with lice one time from a very reputable breeder that only discovered them at POS & treated them immediately. You would hope that the birds you take to a show sales area would be checked for that though.
I am sorry I didn't meet you while there. My red walker & I made me easy to spot.......LOL But......I did get through the whole show floor & saw everything & stayed for lunch with chicken friends before driving back home to Turlock.

What did Jules buy from Sherry? I'm just nosy!

 

[chrissyr]

2 scrub jays found my ducks nests. I rescued them before damage was done and replaced with fake eggs.
Those birds are brutal!

 

[Sylvester017]

Me three Audio51 and Sylvester017. DE may help short term but I between long term effectiveness and the danger to lungs and eyes I have serious doubts. The Wild birds are on the move and bug season is only beginning,

Meanwhile I was lucky enough to receive a replacement delivery for the poor slw chicks killed by the misrouted Express postal delivery. Thankfully the Postal Service seems to be covering their mistake financially at least. I got a case number even before they arrived as I only wanted to track them down to drive to Oakland or Sacramento to get them myself. Anyway all the new babies arrived strong and healthy. I'm so thrilled! Only a few have a bit of pasty butt but even they are growing like weeds. Thank you to Chickenhill for the expert packing and encouragement.


a few of them the day they arrived

a couple of days later, look how fat they are!

They are a week old today.

How I want to cry when I hear about chicks dying in the mail! I've heard too many stories of the sad demise of little babies in transit that I never order day-olds. I find breeders who will ship 2 to 3 month old juveniles already obviously sexed and the bigger juvies survive the long trips better -- especially if there are 2 birds in the box to keep company.

Not all postal workers are sharp because they are so rushed to be "efficient" that many mistakes are made. After our first order of shipped birds got put on our mail carrier's truck after there were explicit instructions to call for pickup I never trusted our local P.O. again. By 10 a.m. when I hadn'nt received my expected pickup call I contacted the post office that said the birds were traveling in the mail carrier's hot truck (if these had been day-olds half or all would've been dead!) You bet I hollered and they delivered the juvies within the half-hour!

With our 2nd shipment we notified all the mail carriers by stopping their trucks and alerting them to call us for live bird pickup (which by the way is post office policy that they obviously ignore at our local P.O.!) After alerting all 3 carriers in our neighborhood plus leaving reminder notes in the mailbox to alert them to call me for live birds, the 2nd shipment was left in the post office and I was called at 8 a.m. to pickup my birds. Moral of the story is like Muldur of "The X-Files" which is TRUST NO ONE -- and be extra diligent in order to prepare yourself against others' mistakes.

Too preachy? Maybe but then I don't like losing birds to a miserable unnecessary death -- let alone the incidental hundreds of dollars of loss.

 

[caychris]

How I want to cry when I hear about chicks dying in the mail!

Part of the reason why I order hatching eggs instead of chicks. I know there are other issues but at least I know they didnt die due to some trama in transit

 

[SpringPeeper]

2 scrub jays found my ducks nests. I rescued them before damage was done and replaced with fake eggs.
Those birds are brutal!

Yep! They are the predator I had the most problems with last year. The dang birds even pecked open a few eggs just days before they were due to hatch last year. One chick was dead when I noticed, the other was very dicey but ended up making it. Big egg thieves and I have no doubt they'd kill chicks if they got the chance.

 

[chrissyr]

Yep! They are the predator I had the most problems with last year. The dang birds even pecked open a few eggs just days before they were due to hatch last year. One chick was dead when I noticed, the other was very dicey but ended up making it. Big egg thieves and I have no doubt they'd kill chicks if they got the chance. 

that is horrible, but ican totally see that happening. They are determined!

 

[Audio51]

Quote: I have not had chicks shipped in about the last 28 years and only once then. There were no problems with that shipment. I do have some BLRW chicks and a couple CCL's that will be shipped the last week of March from Jeff @Papa Brooder . I am retty sure he has had good success with shipping. Sometimes it is the only way to get good birds at an affordable cost. The things is that you probably only hear about the tragedies. When things go smoothly, people aren't as likely to talk about it as much. Just like driving a car. You don't hear much about all the safe trips people make all the time, only the ones were there was an accident involved.

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That is my preferred method too, but not always an option........and not always successful even if it is.

Quote: I think a lot of people don't even realize the problem is Jays. There have been multiple people posting the FB groups saying the have an egg eater and don't know what to do. They found a broken egg in the nestbox and assume it was the hens. They don't even consider that it could be a jay. But if someone mentions that possibility they sometimes say that they have seen them around

Quote: And they have no other redeeming qualities. They have a loud, obnoxious sound and are not even a pretty blue like Jays in some other parts of the country. I have seen them raid other wild birds nests and eat the hatchlings.....