California - Northern

[Miss Molly]

Yes there is an egg/meat withdrawal time. 14 days after treatment. It's easy to get in them with a medicine syringe and pull on their wattles and their mouth will open.

I may swap to ivermectin when my valbazen expires. I've read it's good to switch wormers so they don't build up a resistance to it.

And yes, wet areas would have to treat more often - people in GA worm quarterly because of the high worm load.

So, if I use Ivermectin, I CAN eat the eggs?
If I uSE Valbazen, I CAN NOT eat the egg for 14 day?

 

[ronott1]

I'm still on the fence about whether or not to worm my chickens. I just finished reading the entire thread (of 147 posts) that Happy Chooks suggested.

I see the pros and cons of both arguments. Previously I had planned to get the Ivermectin that Ron mentioned and go that route. Then, I decided that it would be best to 1st have a fecal test done and THEN worm if necessary. But, the only clinic around here that tests chicken poop charges $64 -so "I don't think so"!!! Does anyone know of a place that checks fecal samples (chickens) for less? Is there someplace I could mail or drop off a sample, like UC Davis?

I believe my chickens probably DO have some parasites...just like us people! It seems like their natural immunity is healthy/strong enough to keep down a serious infestation. But, it seems like once you medicate, you have to keep repeating treatment (every 6 or 12 months). I have a low immune system personally and hate to add toxins to my body (through using meds in my chickens). As a matter of fact, in 2 weeks my entire family actually IS getting checked for internal parasites and other inbalances. We will be put on a program of natural supplements to rid us of whatever is found? I don't know much more about it than that, but I will let you know the details -IF IT IS APPLICABLE TO CHICKENS-hehe! I will also ask the "Natural" Doctors what they think of medicating chickens.

I read a thread that said any vet can do a float test. It is the same as the test they do for Dogs. Tell them you need a float test for your dog and take in the chicken poo. As far as I no, CAHFS at UCD Only does a Necropsy. The Vet Med Center would do the float test, but they are expensive to use.

To quote Happy Chooks, there is no natural cure for worms. Once they (or you) have them you have to use medicine. Ivermectin is so safe, that a 200 times overdose will not kill them. One person did that by accident. The bantam chicken was sluggish for a while but was completely recovered in a short time.

Resistance to worms would mean that they live with them in their system but do not die from the worms.

They would still have worms.

Ron

 

[ronott1]

Quote: That is my understanding. You can't sell them, but you can't sell eggs if you give them any medicine at all.

It is longer actually, since you have to retreat after 10 days. It would be 24 days of no eggs. If you use something with a withdrawl, it would be a good idea to stock pile eggs. Store eggs are yucky!

I eat the eggs during Ivermectin treatment--been doing it for two years now. I still only have two eyes.....(remember the fish on the Simpson's)

Ron

 

[debs_flock]

I read a thread that said any vet can do a float test. It is the same as the test they do for Dogs. Tell them you need a float test for your dog and take in the chicken poo.

If you have a local vet for your other pets, just call and ask if they can run the test. My local vet did all the fecal testing for me for my frogs.

But you do need to tell them the species, I think they'll know it's not dog

And it helps them to know what they are looking for.

Deb

 

[debs_flock]

The part about feeding Oat Grain or Gorats which is the grain without the shell caught my eye.

Ron

Do you mean oat groats? You should be able to find them at most feed stores in 50# bags. It's one of the components in scratch grains, the whole grain that looks slightly like a grain of rice, indented lengthwise on one side.

Deb

 

[zooweemama]

I have a large ceramic pot that had a Red Wood tree in it until it died(I think the chickens helped with that

). Now it is a nest box with fake eggs and all.

Great story about catching the chicken. I wish I had a smiley for a dog pinning down a chicken. All I have is

I was reading about saving feed costs here: https://www.backyardchickens.com/a/reducing-feed-costs-tips-and-tricks

The part about feeding Oat Grain or Gorats which is the grain without the shell caught my eye. Several articles say to feed them 35 to 50 percent oats during the hot weather and stop giving them corn. The corn is supposed to heat them up while the Oats are supposed to help them retain moisture and still lay eggs in the heat. TSC in some parts of the country sells Oats for a bit under $15.00 per 50 pounds.

Does anyone on here feed Oats to their chickens and if so, where do you get it?

Ron

I haven't been giving them oats for almost 2 weeks but I had been cutting it into their feed. I have oats from the feed store (50# bag). They do not look like rolled oats though. Want me to a pic of them? They are rolled....but not processed other than that. Not quaker oats. I stopped because I thought that was what made Copper's crop impacted. There was a ton of FR in his crop and a few specks of oat hulls. But nothing that should have caused impaction like he had it. It was like he ate a ton of FR and stopped drinking water almost. They were actually doing great on it.

 

[zooweemama]

the bag of oats

The oats


Excuse my typos. Sent from my iPhone.

 

[ronott1]

Quote: Thank you! I will check with TSC. I already have Chicken Wheat, so it would be easy to either switch them or mix them.

Quote: Thank you for letting me know. How much did the Oats cost you? My guess is that the drought in the mid west is causing the corn cost to go up. Will the drought raise the price of all grains? Is it like oil where they use any excuse to raise the price?

Bye,

Ron

 

[sewandgrow]

BYC breeder Lotsapaints sprouts oats for her chickens regularly. I bought my oats at the Seed Factory where we have or grain mixed but there is a large minimum order there that we meet by sharing our order. I haven't done it yet.......I just don't know where the time goes & Ispend alot of time inside hiding from the heat. I have a 50# sack of oats in the barn to try sprouting. She does it in 5 gallon PVC buckets & it only takes a few days & the chickens absolutely love them.
I am trying the greens sprouting trays & m ready to put my first 2 in the pens to see how that works & I will go from there.
Ron if you are the Ron that might be coming to the Chicken swim party with Lucas I can send some oats home wih you to try out.. I hope to get around to making another forage tray for the raffle by then too,
Karen in Turlock

 

[ronott1]

BYC breeder Lotsapaints sprouts oats for her chickens regularly. I bought my oats at the Seed Factory where we have or grain mixed but there is a large minimum order there that we meet by sharing our order. I haven't done it yet.......I just don't know where the time goes & Ispend alot of time inside hiding from the heat. I have a 50# sack of oats in the barn to try sprouting. She does it in 5 gallon PVC buckets & it only takes a few days & the chickens absolutely love them.
I am trying the greens sprouting trays & m ready to put my first 2 in the pens to see how that works & I will go from there.
Ron if you are the Ron that might be coming to the Chicken swim party with Lucas I can send some oats home wih you to try out.. I hope to get around to making another forage tray for the raffle by then too,
Karen in Turlock

Thank you Karen!

I like the idea of sprouting some oat for them.

Ron