Nobody here i guess i'll go outside and enjoy the sun and the chickens for a bit and maybe clean some cages untill all you night owls wake up and start typeing on your key boards.
California Serama Breeders Gather Here!!
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HUMMMMM ok i am here
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San Diego County Department of Animal Services is attempting to push a new county wide ordinance through the San Diego County Board of Supervisors that would restrict the number of roosters a resident are allowed to keep. This new ordinance is their attempt at eliminating cockfighting from San Diego but what the San Diego County Department of Animal Services doesnt realize is that this new ordinance will not just eliminate cockfighting; it will eliminate chicken breeders and hobbyists as well. Every breeder of Silkies, Seramas, Old English Bantams, Polish and Jungle Fowl may be subject to the seizure and subsequent euthanasia of their birds. This new ordinance will also make it easier for the Department of Animal Services to obtain a search warrant to inspect your property whether your birds are used for cock fighting purposes or not. So, if youre a breeder of fancy Serama Chickens, an animal control officer has the right to seize your birds if youre over your limit and then search your house and property for anything else suspicious or related to cockfighting, which includes syringes, antibiotics and latex or nytrile gloves. This means if you also have diabetes you may be charged with cockfighting Searamas.
The ordinance doesnt define whether possession of more than the allotted number of birds per acre is a misdemeanor or a felony. It also doesnt define what will happen to the birds or what type of fines are associated. Are birds seized and subsequently euthanized? Will they allow the owner time to find homes for the birds?
Also, whos going to enforce this new ordinance? Are we going to have to employ more animal control officers to patrol and alert to the presence of someone who might or might not have more roosters than they are allowed to have or are we going to have to rely on tips from annoyed neighbors and the general public? Will people who currently have over the limit, according to the new ordinance, have to surrender their birds or will they be grandfathered in and allowed to stay? Is the county going to reimburse the breeders and hobbyists who are loosing out on $1000s of dollars worth of birds under the new ordinance? Will they allow people to purchase Breeders License to bird owners in order to keep breeding rare and endangered fowl such as the Cylon Junglefowl? And, if these birds are going to be seized and euthanized in the same manner that the Department of Animal Services usually deals with cock fighting roosters, whos going to pay for the increase of pentobarbital needed to euthanize the roosters?
These are pretty big questions that have yet to be answered by the San Diego County Department of Animal Services. Im also worried as to why they werent asked by the other Board Supervisors?
Yes, cockfighting is a problem in San Diego County, yes its an expensive illegal hobby to keep tabs on but outlawing roosters is not the answer. Keep the humane conditions and anti-tethering sections in the new ordinance but take out the limit on the number of roosters per area of land, its infringes on our rights as respectable and responsible chicken pet owners.
To read the article written by the San Diego Union Tribune on this topic visit:
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2011/aug/01/san-diego-looking-curb-cockfighting/
To read the actual proposed county ordinance visit:
http://bosagenda.sdcounty.ca.gov/agendadocs/doc?id=09010e96800f2b56
SO WHAT CAN YOU DO ABOUT IT?
- Contact the individual Board of Supervisors at the following phone numbers, emails and address and let them know youre against the ordinance and why.
Supervisor Greg Cox
County Administration Office
1600 Pacific Hwy
Room 335
San Diego, CA 92101
(619)531-5511
[email protected]
Supervisor Dianne Jacob
County Administration Office
1600 Pacific Hwy
Room 335
San Diego, CA 92101
(619)531-5522
[email protected]
Supervisor Pam Slater-Price
County Administration Office
1600 Pacific Hwy
Room 335
San Diego, CA 92101
(619)531-5533
[email protected]
Supervisor Ron Roberts
County Administration Office
1600 Pacific Hwy
Room 335
San Diego, CA 92101
(619)531-5544
[email protected]
- Show your support IN PERSON! The next meeting is Sept 13th at 9am at the San Diego County Administration Center located at:
1600 Pacific Highway, San Diego, CA 92101 in Room 310
IF YOU ARE OPPOSED TO THE ORDINANCE WE ASK THAT YOU WEAR A RED T-SHIRT TO SHOW YOUR OPPOSITION!
- Contact the person who drafted the ordinance and tell him why you oppose it:
John Carlson
Regional Director of the San Diego Department of Animal Services
(619)498-2308
[email protected]
- Sign the online petition at:
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/San-Diego-Rooster-Ordinance/
Thank you for your time and support,
Rachel Bowman, CPDT-KA
CEO and Head Trainer
Bowmans Canine Rescue and Training
HUMMMMM ok i am here
The Basic Info
San Diego County Department of Animal Services is attempting to push a new county wide ordinance through the San Diego County Board of Supervisors that would restrict the number of roosters a resident are allowed to keep. This new ordinance is their attempt at eliminating cockfighting from San Diego but what the San Diego County Department of Animal Services doesnt realize is that this new ordinance will not just eliminate cockfighting; it will eliminate chicken breeders and hobbyists as well. Every breeder of Silkies, Seramas, Old English Bantams, Polish and Jungle Fowl may be subject to the seizure and subsequent euthanasia of their birds. This new ordinance will also make it easier for the Department of Animal Services to obtain a search warrant to inspect your property whether your birds are used for cock fighting purposes or not. So, if youre a breeder of fancy Serama Chickens, an animal control officer has the right to seize your birds if youre over your limit and then search your house and property for anything else suspicious or related to cockfighting, which includes syringes, antibiotics and latex or nytrile gloves. This means if you also have diabetes you may be charged with cockfighting Searamas.
The ordinance doesnt define whether possession of more than the allotted number of birds per acre is a misdemeanor or a felony. It also doesnt define what will happen to the birds or what type of fines are associated. Are birds seized and subsequently euthanized? Will they allow the owner time to find homes for the birds?
Also, whos going to enforce this new ordinance? Are we going to have to employ more animal control officers to patrol and alert to the presence of someone who might or might not have more roosters than they are allowed to have or are we going to have to rely on tips from annoyed neighbors and the general public? Will people who currently have over the limit, according to the new ordinance, have to surrender their birds or will they be grandfathered in and allowed to stay? Is the county going to reimburse the breeders and hobbyists who are loosing out on $1000s of dollars worth of birds under the new ordinance? Will they allow people to purchase Breeders License to bird owners in order to keep breeding rare and endangered fowl such as the Cylon Junglefowl? And, if these birds are going to be seized and euthanized in the same manner that the Department of Animal Services usually deals with cock fighting roosters, whos going to pay for the increase of pentobarbital needed to euthanize the roosters?
These are pretty big questions that have yet to be answered by the San Diego County Department of Animal Services. Im also worried as to why they werent asked by the other Board Supervisors?
Yes, cockfighting is a problem in San Diego County, yes its an expensive illegal hobby to keep tabs on but outlawing roosters is not the answer. Keep the humane conditions and anti-tethering sections in the new ordinance but take out the limit on the number of roosters per area of land, its infringes on our rights as respectable and responsible chicken pet owners.
To read the article written by the San Diego Union Tribune on this topic visit:
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2011/aug/01/san-diego-looking-curb-cockfighting/
To read the actual proposed county ordinance visit:
http://bosagenda.sdcounty.ca.gov/agendadocs/doc?id=09010e96800f2b56
SO WHAT CAN YOU DO ABOUT IT?
- Contact the individual Board of Supervisors at the following phone numbers, emails and address and let them know youre against the ordinance and why.
Supervisor Greg Cox
County Administration Office
1600 Pacific Hwy
Room 335
San Diego, CA 92101
(619)531-5511
[email protected]
Supervisor Dianne Jacob
County Administration Office
1600 Pacific Hwy
Room 335
San Diego, CA 92101
(619)531-5522
[email protected]
Supervisor Pam Slater-Price
County Administration Office
1600 Pacific Hwy
Room 335
San Diego, CA 92101
(619)531-5533
[email protected]
Supervisor Ron Roberts
County Administration Office
1600 Pacific Hwy
Room 335
San Diego, CA 92101
(619)531-5544
[email protected]
- Show your support IN PERSON! The next meeting is Sept 13th at 9am at the San Diego County Administration Center located at:
1600 Pacific Highway, San Diego, CA 92101 in Room 310
IF YOU ARE OPPOSED TO THE ORDINANCE WE ASK THAT YOU WEAR A RED T-SHIRT TO SHOW YOUR OPPOSITION!
- Contact the person who drafted the ordinance and tell him why you oppose it:
John Carlson
Regional Director of the San Diego Department of Animal Services
(619)498-2308
[email protected]
- Sign the online petition at:
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/San-Diego-Rooster-Ordinance/
Thank you for your time and support,
Rachel Bowman, CPDT-KA
CEO and Head Trainer
Bowmans Canine Rescue and Training
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I already called and told them how i feel about it . and i signed the petitions . i will do anything i can to help you all out down there . just let me know what i can do from here if i could i would come down and help you fight this ! bs nobody should be told what they can and can't keep as long as they are not breaking the law fighting birds . if this was the case where i live i would have to shut down my hobbie i need x amount of roosters to be able to breed the birds i want right now i have 17 roosters and cockerals . does this mean i should be given a fine or jail time or my birds taken and killed!!!!! maybe if i was fighting them but no i show my birds and breed them to sale so i can enjoy them and pay for there food and care. so yes i'm here for all of you if i can help .
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HUMMMMM ok i am here
The Basic Info
San Diego County Department of Animal Services is attempting to push a new county wide ordinance through the San Diego County Board of Supervisors that would restrict the number of roosters a resident are allowed to keep. This new ordinance is their attempt at eliminating cockfighting from San Diego but what the San Diego County Department of Animal Services doesnt realize is that this new ordinance will not just eliminate cockfighting; it will eliminate chicken breeders and hobbyists as well. Every breeder of Silkies, Seramas, Old English Bantams, Polish and Jungle Fowl may be subject to the seizure and subsequent euthanasia of their birds. This new ordinance will also make it easier for the Department of Animal Services to obtain a search warrant to inspect your property whether your birds are used for cock fighting purposes or not. So, if youre a breeder of fancy Serama Chickens, an animal control officer has the right to seize your birds if youre over your limit and then search your house and property for anything else suspicious or related to cockfighting, which includes syringes, antibiotics and latex or nytrile gloves. This means if you also have diabetes you may be charged with cockfighting Searamas.
The ordinance doesnt define whether possession of more than the allotted number of birds per acre is a misdemeanor or a felony. It also doesnt define what will happen to the birds or what type of fines are associated. Are birds seized and subsequently euthanized? Will they allow the owner time to find homes for the birds?
Also, whos going to enforce this new ordinance? Are we going to have to employ more animal control officers to patrol and alert to the presence of someone who might or might not have more roosters than they are allowed to have or are we going to have to rely on tips from annoyed neighbors and the general public? Will people who currently have over the limit, according to the new ordinance, have to surrender their birds or will they be grandfathered in and allowed to stay? Is the county going to reimburse the breeders and hobbyists who are loosing out on $1000s of dollars worth of birds under the new ordinance? Will they allow people to purchase Breeders License to bird owners in order to keep breeding rare and endangered fowl such as the Cylon Junglefowl? And, if these birds are going to be seized and euthanized in the same manner that the Department of Animal Services usually deals with cock fighting roosters, whos going to pay for the increase of pentobarbital needed to euthanize the roosters?
These are pretty big questions that have yet to be answered by the San Diego County Department of Animal Services. Im also worried as to why they werent asked by the other Board Supervisors?
Yes, cockfighting is a problem in San Diego County, yes its an expensive illegal hobby to keep tabs on but outlawing roosters is not the answer. Keep the humane conditions and anti-tethering sections in the new ordinance but take out the limit on the number of roosters per area of land, its infringes on our rights as respectable and responsible chicken pet owners.
To read the article written by the San Diego Union Tribune on this topic visit:
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2011/aug/01/san-diego-looking-curb-cockfighting/
To read the actual proposed county ordinance visit:
http://bosagenda.sdcounty.ca.gov/agendadocs/doc?id=09010e96800f2b56
SO WHAT CAN YOU DO ABOUT IT?
- Contact the individual Board of Supervisors at the following phone numbers, emails and address and let them know youre against the ordinance and why.
Supervisor Greg Cox
County Administration Office
1600 Pacific Hwy
Room 335
San Diego, CA 92101
(619)531-5511
[email protected]
Supervisor Dianne Jacob
County Administration Office
1600 Pacific Hwy
Room 335
San Diego, CA 92101
(619)531-5522
[email protected]
Supervisor Pam Slater-Price
County Administration Office
1600 Pacific Hwy
Room 335
San Diego, CA 92101
(619)531-5533
[email protected]
Supervisor Ron Roberts
County Administration Office
1600 Pacific Hwy
Room 335
San Diego, CA 92101
(619)531-5544
[email protected]
- Show your support IN PERSON! The next meeting is Sept 13th at 9am at the San Diego County Administration Center located at:
1600 Pacific Highway, San Diego, CA 92101 in Room 310
IF YOU ARE OPPOSED TO THE ORDINANCE WE ASK THAT YOU WEAR A RED T-SHIRT TO SHOW YOUR OPPOSITION!
- Contact the person who drafted the ordinance and tell him why you oppose it:
John Carlson
Regional Director of the San Diego Department of Animal Services
(619)498-2308
[email protected]
- Sign the online petition at:
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/San-Diego-Rooster-Ordinance/
Thank you for your time and support,
Rachel Bowman, CPDT-KA
CEO and Head Trainer
Bowmans Canine Rescue and Training
Quote:
HUMMMMM ok i am here
The Basic Info
San Diego County Department of Animal Services is attempting to push a new county wide ordinance through the San Diego County Board of Supervisors that would restrict the number of roosters a resident are allowed to keep. This new ordinance is their attempt at eliminating cockfighting from San Diego but what the San Diego County Department of Animal Services doesnt realize is that this new ordinance will not just eliminate cockfighting; it will eliminate chicken breeders and hobbyists as well. Every breeder of Silkies, Seramas, Old English Bantams, Polish and Jungle Fowl may be subject to the seizure and subsequent euthanasia of their birds. This new ordinance will also make it easier for the Department of Animal Services to obtain a search warrant to inspect your property whether your birds are used for cock fighting purposes or not. So, if youre a breeder of fancy Serama Chickens, an animal control officer has the right to seize your birds if youre over your limit and then search your house and property for anything else suspicious or related to cockfighting, which includes syringes, antibiotics and latex or nytrile gloves. This means if you also have diabetes you may be charged with cockfighting Searamas.
The ordinance doesnt define whether possession of more than the allotted number of birds per acre is a misdemeanor or a felony. It also doesnt define what will happen to the birds or what type of fines are associated. Are birds seized and subsequently euthanized? Will they allow the owner time to find homes for the birds?
Also, whos going to enforce this new ordinance? Are we going to have to employ more animal control officers to patrol and alert to the presence of someone who might or might not have more roosters than they are allowed to have or are we going to have to rely on tips from annoyed neighbors and the general public? Will people who currently have over the limit, according to the new ordinance, have to surrender their birds or will they be grandfathered in and allowed to stay? Is the county going to reimburse the breeders and hobbyists who are loosing out on $1000s of dollars worth of birds under the new ordinance? Will they allow people to purchase Breeders License to bird owners in order to keep breeding rare and endangered fowl such as the Cylon Junglefowl? And, if these birds are going to be seized and euthanized in the same manner that the Department of Animal Services usually deals with cock fighting roosters, whos going to pay for the increase of pentobarbital needed to euthanize the roosters?
These are pretty big questions that have yet to be answered by the San Diego County Department of Animal Services. Im also worried as to why they werent asked by the other Board Supervisors?
Yes, cockfighting is a problem in San Diego County, yes its an expensive illegal hobby to keep tabs on but outlawing roosters is not the answer. Keep the humane conditions and anti-tethering sections in the new ordinance but take out the limit on the number of roosters per area of land, its infringes on our rights as respectable and responsible chicken pet owners.
To read the article written by the San Diego Union Tribune on this topic visit:
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2011/aug/01/san-diego-looking-curb-cockfighting/
To read the actual proposed county ordinance visit:
http://bosagenda.sdcounty.ca.gov/agendadocs/doc?id=09010e96800f2b56
SO WHAT CAN YOU DO ABOUT IT?
- Contact the individual Board of Supervisors at the following phone numbers, emails and address and let them know youre against the ordinance and why.
Supervisor Greg Cox
County Administration Office
1600 Pacific Hwy
Room 335
San Diego, CA 92101
(619)531-5511
[email protected]
Supervisor Dianne Jacob
County Administration Office
1600 Pacific Hwy
Room 335
San Diego, CA 92101
(619)531-5522
[email protected]
Supervisor Pam Slater-Price
County Administration Office
1600 Pacific Hwy
Room 335
San Diego, CA 92101
(619)531-5533
[email protected]
Supervisor Ron Roberts
County Administration Office
1600 Pacific Hwy
Room 335
San Diego, CA 92101
(619)531-5544
[email protected]
- Show your support IN PERSON! The next meeting is Sept 13th at 9am at the San Diego County Administration Center located at:
1600 Pacific Highway, San Diego, CA 92101 in Room 310
IF YOU ARE OPPOSED TO THE ORDINANCE WE ASK THAT YOU WEAR A RED T-SHIRT TO SHOW YOUR OPPOSITION!
- Contact the person who drafted the ordinance and tell him why you oppose it:
John Carlson
Regional Director of the San Diego Department of Animal Services
(619)498-2308
[email protected]
- Sign the online petition at:
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/San-Diego-Rooster-Ordinance/
Thank you for your time and support,
Rachel Bowman, CPDT-KA
CEO and Head Trainer
Bowmans Canine Rescue and Training
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hmm...
you single..???
HHAHAHAHAHHAA... j/k...
Gumbii, find out if he likes snakes and cartoons...if so~~~~ a match made in heaven...
LOL
OMG sue you know me so well... ♥
wait...
maybe too well...
¿how did you get this number...?
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hmm...
you single..???
HHAHAHAHAHHAA... j/k...
why are all the good ones married, taken or straight...?
HAHAHAHHAHAHA...
yeah, i'll be at the meet... i couldn't be here earlier because i had to do a grip of stuff after the gym... as a matter of fact, i still need to finish boarding up a trench left by some day laborer dude... but i'm so lazy... the gym was hard this morning... i had to race and beat this skinny girl...
hmm...
you single..???
HHAHAHAHAHHAA... j/k...
Gumbii, find out if he likes snakes and cartoons...if so~~~~ a match made in heaven...
OMG sue you know me so well... ♥
wait...
maybe too well...
¿how did you get this number...?
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hmm...
you single..???
HHAHAHAHAHHAA... j/k...
why are all the good ones married, taken or straight...?
HAHAHAHHAHAHA...
yeah, i'll be at the meet... i couldn't be here earlier because i had to do a grip of stuff after the gym... as a matter of fact, i still need to finish boarding up a trench left by some day laborer dude... but i'm so lazy... the gym was hard this morning... i had to race and beat this skinny girl...
big b you arent coming in september.....come on you know you want to
he better...
Thats a 1000 plus mile drive my friends for me . but like i said i will try for sure to make it . i might just fly down not sure yet . but i will be there for sure in nov and i'm in the prosse of putting toghter a nor cal show up here so all you so cal people better get ready to drive up here this fall ! don't let me down guys and gals of so cal i'm getting kate to judge it for me . but for sure i will try fir sept but for sure in nov i'll be there . and yes i know i want to come pongo but sometime time and money say i can't
but i will do what i can because you are all a fun bunch of people to hang out with thats for sure!!!!!!!!
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pffft... i'm not driving way up there... you're crazy...
pffft... i'm not driving way up there... you're crazy...
why not gumbii? i drive down there to see you guys and gals and come down for your show down there . come on whats up . you might have some fun!!!!!
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pffft... i'm not driving way up there... you're crazy...
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pffft... i'm not driving way up there... you're crazy...
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