Calling all Penedesencas Owners/Breeders

[Hangtown Farms]

I will!

Do you want some of the Olive Egg layer eggs too? They are Crele Penesesenca x Cream Legbar crossed back to Crele Penedesenca.

nice i bet they will look like crele pene's at least the straight combed ones

 

[ronott1]

nice i bet they will look like crele pene's at least the straight combed ones

Yes, they do and they have all straight combs.

I hatched some this week. I did not get pictures though.

I will next time.

 

[Hangtown Farms]

Yes, they do and they have all straight combs.

I hatched some this week. I did not get pictures though.

I will next time.

dahh lol forgot you where using legbars not silver am's

 

[jlynnp]

I will!

Do you want some of the Olive Egg layer eggs too? They are Crele Penesesenca x Cream Legbar crossed back to Crele Penedesenca.

Olive Eggers would be good as well

 

[ronott1]

Olive Eggers would be good as well

I will add a couple of them for you.

 

[dtimoth]

Hi Pendesenca folks. I'm new to this forum and have never posted before, but I've really enjoyed reading the posts from afar. I just had a batch of 10 mailed Wheaten Penes from the Midwest fail in my new Brinsea advance incubator. I also had seven Cream Legbars in the same hatch, which I bought from a local breeder, and eight of my own Spitzhaubens to fill the remaining slots. I have been breeding chickens for ten years now using my old foam Little Giant, and it has worked for me until recently. In May I bought the new Brinsea with high hopes of getting better hatches. I did EVERYTHING right on this batch, including pre-setting treatment (e.g. rest for 24 hours, rotate, etc). Then during incubation, everything went perfectly--temp always between 99.5 and 99.8, humidity always between 40 and 45%, excellent turning, etc. On day 18, all were removed from rotation. Today is now day 23, and five of my own eight Spitzhaubens hatched on days 22 (very late in the day) and day 23, one more is pipping on day 23. None of the locally-bought Legbars or the 10 shipped Penedesencas have even pipped. In my estimation, this was the most 'perfect' and steady gestation I have ever run on any eggs, but I have had terrible results.

I know shipping is questionable, and unfortunately the weekday after shipment was Memorial Day, and so they sat in a Phoenix warehouse all that day, and the next day they weren't delivered to my home until 5pm, a day that was 107 degrees! I was not a happy camper about that. However, the Legbar eggs were delivered to me from only 30 miles away, by car, by the breeder. She said they were fresh, and I trust her.

Okay, so none of the eggs I bought off-site hatched. I'm very disappointed and of course feeling stupid for trying expensive eggs on my first incubator run. I knew better but was so excited..... I've learned a lesson, and I'm feeling now that the temperature was not accurate in the Brinsea. I did not calibrate with a known accurate thermometer, and I think that's the problem; at least the late hatch of my own eggs seems to indicate that my Brinsea 99.5 was far too low. I'll be sure to calibrate with a medical thermometer next time. Maybe the bought eggs wouldn't have been viable anyway, given their shipping history. I don't know to what degree the lower temperature might have contributed to that. If anyone can offer insight into my situation, I would be grateful. I guess I'm looking for a degree of comfort!

I've been trying to get Penedesencas for two years. One online order of chicks fell through...got the order with no Penes included (and not even an apology--the Penes were the only reason I ordered from that well-known breeder), can't get a different well-known breeder to respond to my inquiries, and now this luck with the eggs. I feel that I'm not meant to have Penes, even though I think they'd be the best chickens for our summer heat, and I've been wanting them for two years!

Someday I hope to be have my own Penedesencas, but until then, I'll enjoy reading the forum and appreciating others' successes with this awesome breed. Best wishes to all you Penedesenca folks out there.

 

[ronott1]

Hi Pendesenca folks. I'm new to this forum and have never posted before, but I've really enjoyed reading the posts from afar. I just had a batch of 10 mailed Wheaten Penes from the Midwest fail in my new Brinsea advance incubator. I also had seven Cream Legbars in the same hatch, which I bought from a local breeder, and eight of my own Spitzhaubens to fill the remaining slots. I have been breeding chickens for ten years now using my old foam Little Giant, and it has worked for me until recently. In May I bought the new Brinsea with high hopes of getting better hatches. I did EVERYTHING right on this batch, including pre-setting treatment (e.g. rest for 24 hours, rotate, etc). Then during incubation, everything went perfectly--temp always between 99.5 and 99.8, humidity always between 40 and 45%, excellent turning, etc. On day 18, all were removed from rotation. Today is now day 23, and five of my own eight Spitzhaubens hatched on days 22 (very late in the day) and day 23, one more is pipping on day 23. None of the locally-bought Legbars or the 10 shipped Penedesencas have even pipped. In my estimation, this was the most 'perfect' and steady gestation I have ever run on any eggs, but I have had terrible results.

I know shipping is questionable, and unfortunately the weekday after shipment was Memorial Day, and so they sat in a Phoenix warehouse all that day, and the next day they weren't delivered to my home until 5pm, a day that was 107 degrees! I was not a happy camper about that. However, the Legbar eggs were delivered to me from only 30 miles away, by car, by the breeder. She said they were fresh, and I trust her.

Okay, so none of the eggs I bought off-site hatched. I'm very disappointed and of course feeling stupid for trying expensive eggs on my first incubator run. I knew better but was so excited..... I've learned a lesson, and I'm feeling now that the temperature was not accurate in the Brinsea. I did not calibrate with a known accurate thermometer, and I think that's the problem; at least the late hatch of my own eggs seems to indicate that my Brinsea 99.5 was far too low. I'll be sure to calibrate with a medical thermometer next time. Maybe the bought eggs wouldn't have been viable anyway, given their shipping history. I don't know to what degree the lower temperature might have contributed to that. If anyone can offer insight into my situation, I would be grateful. I guess I'm looking for a degree of comfort!

I've been trying to get Penedesencas for two years. One online order of chicks fell through...got the order with no Penes included (and not even an apology--the Penes were the only reason I ordered from that well-known breeder), can't get a different well-known breeder to respond to my inquiries, and now this luck with the eggs. I feel that I'm not meant to have Penes, even though I think they'd be the best chickens for our summer heat, and I've been wanting them for two years!

Someday I hope to be have my own Penedesencas, but until then, I'll enjoy reading the forum and appreciating others' successes with this awesome breed. Best wishes to all you Penedesenca folks out there.

Please crack all the egg open and let us know what you find.

This chart can help figure our when each egg quit:



The heat likely killed the embryos so I would expect no development on the Pene eggs. Wheaten Penes are nice looking too! I have one pullet that is Wheaten.

When do you want to try hatching Penes? Shipping would not be a good idea now so that would leave Fall, late winter or early spring?

If all goes well, I will have more Partridge penes available by next season.

 

[dtimoth]

Thank you for the speedy reply, and thanks for sending the embryo development chart. I don't expect to find much in the Pene eggs, but I'm not sure about the Legbars. I'll probably open them late tomorrow to see signs of development. While I got six chicks out of eight of my own Spitzhauben eggs, they came two days late. That's why I think the temperature was too low. If the other eggs were viable, I'd think they would have started pipping by now too. I'm really discouraged about the situation, but I could try again this winter.

Ya, it's going to be above 100 degrees here until late September, so shipping eggs before then wouldn't be logical. I'd like to try again around October or November. I travel overseas once a month, though, so my timing has to be just right so that I have at least 25 days at home--probably not until late November. Would your hens still be laying well in November? I was kind of set on the wheatens, but the partridges are nice, too. I have Welsumers as well, and so I wanted the wheaten Penes for contrast. Will you have a wheaten rooster on your wheaten hen in the fall?

 

[ronott1]

Thank you for the speedy reply, and thanks for sending the embryo development chart. I don't expect to find much in the Pene eggs, but I'm not sure about the Legbars. I'll probably open them late tomorrow to see signs of development. While I got six chicks out of eight of my own Spitzhauben eggs, they came two days late. That's why I think the temperature was too low. If the other eggs were viable, I'd think they would have started pipping by now too. I'm really discouraged about the situation, but I could try again this winter.

Ya, it's going to be above 100 degrees here until late September, so shipping eggs before then wouldn't be logical. I'd like to try again around October or November. I travel overseas once a month, though, so my timing has to be just right so that I have at least 25 days at home--probably not until late November. Would your hens still be laying well in November? I was kind of set on the wheatens, but the partridges are nice, too. I have Welsumers as well, and so I wanted the wheaten Penes for contrast. Will you have a wheaten rooster on your wheaten hen in the fall?

The new ones will be too young--You never know about the older ones. They will molt this Fall so I would expect them to be back laying by December at the latest.

I will not have a Wheaten Rooster then. I do have a Crele Rooster that I am using for making Olive Egg layers.

Welcome to BYC! It is nice to have more people interested in Penedesencas. There should be a lot of Penes in Arizona--They are Ultra Heat Hardy after all.

 

[dtimoth]

That's one of the reasons I want them...heat hardiness. As you know, we can get up to 117-119 some summers but typically only get to 112-114. Nonetheless, I usually lose 2-6 hens every summer to heat stroke despite best efforts. I'd love to try again this winter. Thanks for your help.