Calling All Rabbit Nutters

If mislabeled, what are they? I posted two pretty bad pictures of them, not sure how you could tell from what you've seen, lol
Can't say for sure what they are, but can say for sure that the one with the broken markings has markings so far off standard that it cannot be an English Spot. There can be solid color English Spots but your male in the photo would be a bit pudgy and thick boned for an English Spot. Hard to say for certain without any markings but seems highly doubtful with that body structure.
 
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