calling any one from missouri

[Dry Creek Ranch]

I will have to look at that. When IL raised their income tax several years ago I decided that was the last straw. The land in MO was 1/3 the price of IL and my property tax is 1/4 of what it was in IL.

 

[ocap]

I wonder when they send those forms out? We moved here last summer, and have not yet received a personal property assessment form....not that I'm complaining....

January

 

[ChickenCanoe]

I'm pretty sure animals aren't included on the St. Louis county PP tax form.

 

[alldembirds]

I was told today you can only claim poultry if you are legitimately trying to make money , if you are really trying to start an agricultural business. Those deductions are not meant for personal flocks.


edit: i also found this http://www.motherearthnews.com/home...arm-tax-deductions-zmaz73mazraw.aspx?PageId=1

 

[microchick]

But if they are listed on our personal property taxable list do we still list them even if they are a back yard flock?

My husband and I were just debating this. We have to list our tractors, motorcycles, cars, etc. Then our form has livestock on the back. Everything from horses to emues and donkeys. It also says dogs (marketable) but it doesn't say that for anything else. So they don't tax us for our spayed and neutered pet dogs and cats but they do tax us for breedable dogs as livestock.

I'm SOOOOOO confused....

But that's nothing new for me.

So technically, the way it looks to me, if we sell excess eggs we shouldn't have to declare them on our income taxes unless we are like the guys with 4,200 chickens who are collecting 12,000 eggs and selling them as an income sorce.

We used t be self eployed so taxes are a way of life for us but this farm stuff is all virgin territory.

 

[ChickenCanoe]

Call your county tax office for clarification.

 

[CGinJCMO]

Taxes on chickens? LOL! OK, but I'm going to write off part of the mortgage, taxes, utilities, feed, fuel, expenses - that'll larn dem!
Oh and purchase prices and depreciation and losses and and and!

Yeah, I'm definately losing money on my chickens - taxes on buying the chicks, owning them, buying their feed, buying the other incidentals waterers, shavings, wood to build everything else, straw for them to walk on instead of snow and to scratch in, fencing materials, increase in my water and electric bills so there's more tax there too. Oh yes, driving to the feed store so I use more gas which is also taxed (and if I want to get really picky, the wear and tear repairs on my car). Techinallically, I guess I'm catagorized as a hobbist because I'm not doing this as a business and therefore can't get tax exemptions or even write off loses.

CG

 

[EdenCamp]

maybe you should. Then all those chicken runs and exotic vacations where you just happen to talk chickens will all be tax deductible biz expenses...LOL!

 

[alldembirds]

I figure why get the government involved more than they need to be....

 

[ChickenCanoe]

Yeah, I'm definately losing money on my chickens - taxes on buying the chicks, owning them, buying their feed, buying the other incidentals waterers, shavings, wood to build everything else, straw for them to walk on instead of snow and to scratch in, fencing materials, increase in my water and electric bills so there's more tax there too. Oh yes, driving to the feed store so I use more gas which is also taxed (and if I want to get really picky, the wear and tear repairs on my car). Techinallically, I guess I'm catagorized as a hobbist because I'm not doing this as a business and therefore can't get tax exemptions or even write off loses.

CG

You said a mouthful there. My water and electric bills are about twice what they would be otherwise. The electric is primarily for incubators and brooders. I can't believe the number of people that use heat lamps in their coops. Really negates any advantage of having chickens in the first place. There's a couple about 100 yards down the road from me with about 4 chickens and they've had a heat lamp on in the chicken run all winter. Well, in their defense, they're from Texas so I guess they think this is cold.