Calling Meat Poultry Producers (Chicken, Turkey, Duck, Goose, ect.)

[OSUman]

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Thanks for all of the great info

Where is the cheapest place to get the pastured poultry profits book?

 

[Brunty_Farms]

Where is the cheapest place to get the pastured poultry profits book?

Check amazon... a friend gave me the book for free so I got lucky!​

 

[jaku]

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Thanks for all of the great info

Where is the cheapest place to get the pastured poultry profits book?

Try Ebay. Sometimes you can get books on there for almost nothing. Otherwise, go used at Amazon.

 

[mmwb]

"The chance of someone getting sick from your birds is SO low that I don't even worry about it, assuming you follow basic sanitation guidelines. "


The point on liability insurance is to protect you from suits: Unfounded or founded. Legal costs of one suit can cost you thousands. It doesn't matter if your bird caused the illness. We live in a litigious society. Operating without insurance is a personal choice, but you are throwing the dice hoping they don't roll up an unscrupulous customer who would seek profit at your expense. If a civil suit were filed against you, and you lost, you could well loose all personal assets and future earnings as well. Its just a topic that is worth serious thought.

 

[chickenannie]

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Community Supported Agriculture -- it's when a farm has "members" who pay a price at the beginning of the year for the whole season's worth of produce from the farm (often $500-$700 for a typical produce farm). Then, each week, the farm harvests all their produce and puts it in boxes for each customer to pick up their "share." It's like pre-paid grocery shopping, direct off teh farm and the CSA members share in the farm's productivity.

 

[Buster52]

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Thank you VERY VERY much...

You are very very welcome.

 

[jeffzen]

Really that it does mean, however, that if anyone drives up to the abode unannounced and wants to buy a craven from the freezer, we do not advertise him one. We’re animated to yield his order, however, and accession him one precontracted in the field. Consistency in this breadth is acutely important.



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[greyfields]

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Jeff, my point is that in my State the "Sale" of agricultural goods and services includes giving them away, selling them, bartering, etc. It's well defined. Such as some people were doing "cow shares" for milk as a way to avoid having to be a licensed dairy. It's all wishful thinking.

This is no different that on income tax if I were to 'trade' or 'give away' $3,000 in Professional Engineering services. I would obligated to pay income tax on the appraissed value of my work.

If your State regulates whatever you are doing (let's say you sell bottled water at a Farm Market) and you elect to give it away (or barter), you must follow the rules to be a bottled water producer unless exempted by the Law. You cannot choose to exclude yourself using clever terms or contractual provisions (plenty of 'contracts' are signed which are neither legal nor binding).

I'd caution everyone to take Joe Salatin's advice carefully on the matter. Also, the HACCP requirements on chicken processing are binding, wether you are licensed, inspected, or not.

Also, we are a LLC and we have immense insurance. But, to say a farm operates without liability is, as you know, ridiculous.

 

[Buster52]

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Cheapest? Why, at your local public library, of course. If they don't have it, ask about interlibrary loan.

 

[Brunty_Farms]

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Jeff, my point is that in my State the "Sale" of agricultural goods and services includes giving them away, selling them, bartering, etc. It's well defined. Such as some people were doing "cow shares" for milk as a way to avoid having to be a licensed dairy. It's all wishful thinking.

Also, we are a LLC and we have immense insurance. But, to say a farm operates without liability is, as you know, ridiculous.

I understand where you coming from. In my situation... it's been so far so good. Like you said, legal contracts are broke all the time so that does worry me to some extent.

However we are doing our best to stay under the radar but the time is coming to where a facility does need to be built to be legal... this way, reguardless of the laws I can be legal and won't have to "dance" around the regulations.

I think the cow shares are a bit different than the chicken situation though. People here in Ohio got busted for doing the whole cow share program. Again I think it was for inconsistancy for sales, if you have a program like that you need to stick with it. As if you sell just a half a gallon of milk to the wrong person your whole operation may get shut down.... which has happend to some people.

I do still pay taxes on the chickens that are sold along with everything else but only because I have to. Most people that do a few here and there don't have to worry about it and deal with a cash only system which is smart. It is smart though to cover your end the best you can, with insurance, contracts, and even an LLC. Too much protection is a good thing.