Sorry about the little duck--- it's so hard to see one born with something wrong with it. I hope the rest of your hatch goes smoothly and you have lots of beautiful fluffy butts!!
Calling Miss Jayne *Graphic Photo* Crested Duck Genetics Awesome Info!
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oh i will have pics on here tomorrow of her
where are you going on vacation at? sounds exciting!
we are going to Kentucky! seeing three BYC families along the journey! how cool is that? we'll post while away on BYC and my website.
i'll send ya a postcard!
oh i will have pics on here tomorrow of her
where are you going on vacation at? sounds exciting!
we are going to Kentucky! seeing three BYC families along the journey! how cool is that? we'll post while away on BYC and my website.
i'll send ya a postcard!
Mark & Miss Jayne, sorry about the little duckling - that is a bummer.
Question though on the genetics and the crested ducks. I feel like an idiot now because I got the kids crested ducks to show in their 4H. I didn't know that the crests were basically a genetic defect. Wouldn't this be a bad thing to continue to "support" this type of duck? I believe that when you breed, you should be doing what you can to improve the breed not bring health problems. We were thinking about letting the kids try and hatch out some duck eggs or chicken eggs (when and if that point starts, everyone is only a few months old) but now after reading this post, would it be best to keep the male ducks separated from the girls?
Question though on the genetics and the crested ducks. I feel like an idiot now because I got the kids crested ducks to show in their 4H. I didn't know that the crests were basically a genetic defect. Wouldn't this be a bad thing to continue to "support" this type of duck? I believe that when you breed, you should be doing what you can to improve the breed not bring health problems. We were thinking about letting the kids try and hatch out some duck eggs or chicken eggs (when and if that point starts, everyone is only a few months old) but now after reading this post, would it be best to keep the male ducks separated from the girls?
If you have all crested ducks then yes... In order to produce the crested gene you need one non crested parent and one crested parent.
It is a very sad thing to see, but it just comes with the territory of breeding crested ducks. If you don't care for them either astetically or morally, then don't breed them.
It is a very sad thing to see, but it just comes with the territory of breeding crested ducks. If you don't care for them either astetically or morally, then don't breed them.
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The little Duckling my mom laid it to rest in there back yard under the grape vine
the Turkey is still drying off in the bator.. no quails hatched yet but they are late hatching for some reason lol
Thank you all for the hugs and awesome advince PLEASE keep the genetic stuff going as i don't know much about it and as you can see other BYCers don't know anything about it either .. i am gonna change my thread title for this
the Turkey is still drying off in the bator.. no quails hatched yet but they are late hatching for some reason lol
Thank you all for the hugs and awesome advince PLEASE keep the genetic stuff going as i don't know much about it and as you can see other BYCers don't know anything about it either .. i am gonna change my thread title for this
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oh i will have pics on here tomorrow of her
where are you going on vacation at? sounds exciting!
we are going to Kentucky! seeing three BYC families along the journey! how cool is that? we'll post while away on BYC and my website.
i'll send ya a postcard!
Oh! that is exciting!
who wouldn't want to go on a vacation PLUS meet a few BYC families on the way! awesome!
i know you all are gonna have a blast!
oh i will have pics on here tomorrow of her
where are you going on vacation at? sounds exciting!
we are going to Kentucky! seeing three BYC families along the journey! how cool is that? we'll post while away on BYC and my website.
i'll send ya a postcard!
Oh! that is exciting!
who wouldn't want to go on a vacation PLUS meet a few BYC families on the way! awesome!
i know you all are gonna have a blast!
check this info
Crested ducks are basically an aberration appearing in any colour and as such hava mixed history. The crest is essentially a mutation associated with skull deformities and known for hundreds of years. There are those who claim that crested ducks first appeared in Britain, which is unlikely but they were certainly first Shown here and appear in many early poultry books . Genetic mutations appear occasionally all over the world. Selective breeding would then have increased the numbers of birds with the same characteristic. 17th century Dutch paintings show crested ducks on wildfowl such as Melchior d'Hondecoeter (1636 -1695) and Marmaduke Craddock (1660 - 1717) from Somerset in the Uk showed them
The crest is formed from a mass of fatty tissue that emerges through a gap in the cranium.( skull) From this, feathers grow. Crests vary from centrally placed, full crests, rather like powder puffs, to knobbly protuberances with just a few feathers; or the occasional earring when it has 'slipped'. The crested gene can be bred into any breed except Muscovy as one parent crested will breed a percentage of crested offspring .All crested seldom breed successfully but if they do produce better stock. If using a crested female with a large crest watch as the drake uses this as to ' assist ' mating and she can get injured easily. The tuft of feathers on the head, which occasionally appears, having been recognized as a point of attraction, selected and bred for of the off spring many will be plain headed but carry the crested gene so a crested drake will turn any breed crested . . they also have the energy for this so watch out
The crest gene is an incompletely dominant one. ie, if an chick receives a double dose of the gene &endash; one from each parent (homozygous) it will die in the shell. If only one of the parents passes it on (heterozygous) the resulting hatches will be :- 25% will not hatch, 25% will not have crests and 50% will have crests. If a crested heterozygous bird is crossed with an un-crested one, the resulting hatch should be 50% crested and 50% plain. So, as you can see, breeding Crested ducks is challenging and not recommended for beginners; also if the crest is so large as to intefere with normal eating and mating etc it would need to be 'trimmed' to allow the duck a normal life.
Crested ducks are basically an aberration appearing in any colour and as such hava mixed history. The crest is essentially a mutation associated with skull deformities and known for hundreds of years. There are those who claim that crested ducks first appeared in Britain, which is unlikely but they were certainly first Shown here and appear in many early poultry books . Genetic mutations appear occasionally all over the world. Selective breeding would then have increased the numbers of birds with the same characteristic. 17th century Dutch paintings show crested ducks on wildfowl such as Melchior d'Hondecoeter (1636 -1695) and Marmaduke Craddock (1660 - 1717) from Somerset in the Uk showed them
The crest is formed from a mass of fatty tissue that emerges through a gap in the cranium.( skull) From this, feathers grow. Crests vary from centrally placed, full crests, rather like powder puffs, to knobbly protuberances with just a few feathers; or the occasional earring when it has 'slipped'. The crested gene can be bred into any breed except Muscovy as one parent crested will breed a percentage of crested offspring .All crested seldom breed successfully but if they do produce better stock. If using a crested female with a large crest watch as the drake uses this as to ' assist ' mating and she can get injured easily. The tuft of feathers on the head, which occasionally appears, having been recognized as a point of attraction, selected and bred for of the off spring many will be plain headed but carry the crested gene so a crested drake will turn any breed crested . . they also have the energy for this so watch out
The crest gene is an incompletely dominant one. ie, if an chick receives a double dose of the gene &endash; one from each parent (homozygous) it will die in the shell. If only one of the parents passes it on (heterozygous) the resulting hatches will be :- 25% will not hatch, 25% will not have crests and 50% will have crests. If a crested heterozygous bird is crossed with an un-crested one, the resulting hatch should be 50% crested and 50% plain. So, as you can see, breeding Crested ducks is challenging and not recommended for beginners; also if the crest is so large as to intefere with normal eating and mating etc it would need to be 'trimmed' to allow the duck a normal life.
wow. that's a lot of info, but all good info. not just a bunch of blah blah blah.
i've learned a bunch yesterday and today!
i've learned a bunch yesterday and today!
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