Can I give VetRX AND Tylan at the same time?

[The Monkey Mama]

I am treating my flock "just in case" [see this thread for more details if you want them: https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=200081 ].

I have VetRX and Tylan powder [water soluable] to give them now since the mail came

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Can I give both at once or no?

Thanks for any help!

Kelly

 

[speckledhen]

VetRx is not an antibiotic at all. It has no curative value. It's Vicks VapoRub for birds. It only maybe relieves the symptoms a bit. You can use Vet Rx with anything, if you want.

If you dont know that what your birds have is bacterial, I wouldn't be using an antibiotic. It will just mean that when they really need one to work, like for an injury, it probably wont be as effective. Viruses don't succumb to antibiotics.

 

[purpletree23]

You are giving Tylan 'just in case'. That is how antibiotic resistant strains of bacteria develop. You are doing more harm than good.

 

[purpletree23]

PLEASE FORGIVE ME. I did not read your thread before I spouted off about giving Tylan 'just in case'. I truly apologize.

 

[Glenda L Heywood]

Yes vetrx can be used at same time as medications
it is not an antibiotic

vetrx is very good herbal help when chickens need some help breathing
and it certainly does help in the bird given 1/2 tsp daily
and 1 tsp in the water daily

also rub some over the head and in the eyes
and under the wings

I always used it and felt it did help open breathing passages of the chickens

any questions email me

 

[speckledhen]

Glenda, I just wanted to make sure she understood that VetRx is not an antibiotic at all, though McMurray sells it under that heading. It won't conflict with anything else she uses as far as antibiotics go.

 

[Glenda L Heywood]

thanks your answer was right and thanks for the help
I imagine she still is nervous about the hens swoolen eyes
hopefully there is some hope for the bird
any questions email me

 

[threehorses]

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That's weird that they sell it under antibiotics. /sigh

And yes - it's not a medication. It might possibly have some antibacterial action, but if it does it's not enough at all to call it a medicine.

As the others mentioned, it is wonderful for helping to clear the air passages of birds and facilitate breathing. I like to think of it as "oxygen therapy" as most bacteria HATE air. By keeping the air going into their sinuses, you help to reduce the chances of pockets of anaerobic bacteria thriving and causing worse sinusitis.

Incidentally, I believe all formulas of vetRx are still the same. I do know that if your feedstore only has rabbit VetRx, it's suitable for poultry. Then just look online for the usage.

Personally, I dilute a little VetRx (literally several drops only) with several drops of warm water in a dixie cup or something similar. Use a fresh q-tip every time and swab the nares (nostrils) of the effected bird. Swab the cleft opening in the roof of their beak with the same mixture. You can swab near their eyes, and I like to put it where ever they may put their head (under their wings, etc). It's labeled for water usage so that when they drink, the oil based VetRx coats their beaks and nares on its own. But I rarely do that with ill birds. I like their water clean.

It's a good complimentary supportive product for the antibacterial action of Tylan.

Incidentally, because you're using an antibiotic (and a good one), be sure to give probiotics daily and then every other day for two weeks after treatment to replace the living bacteria in the guts of your birds. The bacteria are literally the workers that nourish and feed and protect your bird. So replace those unfortunately killed by the antibiotic as it was killing the bad bacteria.

 

[threehorses]

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Agreed generally (haven't read the other post yet), but now that you've started, you must NOT stop until the full number of days are complete.

Doing otherwise will really make things worse.

 

[The Monkey Mama]

Thanks everyone.

I am now really confused.

I feel so dumb...

I don't have any birds with any nasal symptoms at all - the only one that has anything wrong now is Rainbow, with the swollen eye. The other pullet that kept her one eye closed for a few days is fine now.

So, it sounds like VetRX is NOT a suitable thing for just an eye problem, is that right? [I did buy it from McMurray's thinking it was antibiotic because of how they listed it].

Maybe I shouldn't use the TYlan either, except for Rainbow [I'd like to treat her with something regardless, her eye is swollen and that seems like possible infection to me, even though it isn't weeping or anything].

I just really don't know what to do. I do NOT want any of my other chickens to get sick, but I'm the kind of person who never uses antibiotics even for myself, so I am reluctant to treat them if I shouldn't.

Thanks for all the advice. Any other opinions are welcome.

Kelly