Can someone please make a Pea color chart............

[deerman]

Yes that was a misprint on UPA. Steve has it right.

1. NO hen can be split to a sex link color.
2. Male of sex link color ,will alway produce daughters or that sex link color no matter what color hen.
3. Female of sex link CAN'T produce a sex link color , unless the male is that color or split that color.
4. You can't produce a male of a sex link color , unless you have a female of that sex link color.
6. If you get a sex link color chick out of say a pr of blues , then the males is split to that color and it will be a female.

I have worked with sex link colors for years in birds.

Great thing about sex link , you can put a Purple man on blue hens and sex the chick as soon as they pop out of the egg. Reason sex link color males sell for more than hens.

 

[Kedreeva]

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But can the females carry a NON sex link color? Like, could a purple hen carry white?

Tell me if this is correct, assuming no splits unless stated:
Purple male x White female = Males are Blue split purple/white and females are purple split white?
Purple female x white male = Males are Blue split purple/white and females are Blue?

Purple male x Blue split white female = Males are Blue split White/Purple and females are purple split white again?
Purple female x Blue split white male = 25% Males are blue split purple, 25% males are blue split purple/white.... 25% females are blue 25% females are blue split white?

 

[deerman]

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But can the females carry a NON sex link color? Like, could a purple hen carry white?

Tell me if this is correct, assuming no splits unless stated:
Purple male x White female = Males are Blue split purple/white and females are purple split white?
Purple female x white male = Males are Blue split purple/white and females are Blue?

Purple male x Blue split white female = Males are Blue split White/Purple and females are purple split white again?
Purple female x Blue split white male = 25% Males are blue split purple, 25% males are blue split purple/white.... 25% females are blue 25% females are blue split white?

Yes they can be split to other colors both male or female.

Purple Male X White hen= blue males split purple..50% also split white.....Purple hens 50% split white.
Purple female X White male =blue male split purple ..50% split white, females blue 50% split white.

remember if only one parent of that color ,only half of the chicks will be split.
IF only one parent is split then only 25% of chicks will be split

I think the easy way to look at it ,as pattern, sex link color, and non sexlink color. each seperate.
You got the sexlink color down...then look at the white..you know blue X white = blue chicks 50% split white.

hope that helps

 

[deerman]

Only with dealing with the 4 colors that are sexlink. does the sex matter.

Patterns and non sexlink color, doesn't matter which sex is the other color or pattern.

 

[Kedreeva]

Ok, thanks again! I think I should be able to fill out the rest of the chart for colors now... we shall see! Will post a new link soon.

 

[6littlechickies]

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Don't get too excited... it's just colors so far and I'm missing a lot of the sex linked stuff because I've just started in on that part today. If I can stomach it, I will try to do a patterns chart as well afterward.

I PM'd you.

 

[Kedreeva]

I PM'd you too.

I've got 3 more 'zones' to cover... technically only 1, as the other two are copy/paste mirrors... but I needs a break before my eyeballs fall out. Whee!

 

[Kedreeva]

Ok... I think I am done. I haven't filled in the 'spalding' row but I don't think it's really necessary at the moment.

http://www.4shared.com/file/6Hg5Pvov/Peafowl_Colors.html

So there is the download link. I switched sites so it should be easier to download now.

I will probably go back and remove percentages, as I gave up doing them halfway through because I couldn't bring myself to care as long as the possible colors were listed.

Please let me know if you find mistakes. If it is good to go, I will post it on it's own with some explanations.

One last question
I probably know the answer to this already... but I want to be sure.

The color mutations can't be split to other color mutations unless they are sex linked... right? Like, a Bronze split Opal wouldn't exist, the bird would be Blue split both Bronze and Opal, right? Or would they be able to exist off some crazy breeding like a Bronze bred to a Blue split bronze/opal?

But sex-linked females (like a purple female) could be split to a color... right? Since her color would be determined by just 1 allele...

 

[Kev]

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me, earlier in this thread:

So far, only white and pied are said to be alleles. Which means any bird can be split for anything else.. the only exceptions are pure pied cannot be split for white and pure white cannot be split pied. A single Blue can be split for black shoulder, opal, bronze, pied(or white). There's no real limit.

specific to your question above, bronze can be split opal. only way this is impossible is if opal and bronze are proven to be alleles(so far nobody has said either way).

purple hen can be split for any non- sex linked gene. purple male too...... not just the female. It kind of seems you are thinking almost all the non-sex linked color mutations are on the same locus, and all sex linkeds are on another locus.

There isn't a specific locus for the 'whole Blue phenotype'. example, opal could be somewhere on chromosome 1.. bronze somewhere on chromosome 6.. etc.. even if the mutants are located on the same chromosome, as long as they are on different loci; purple is located on the upper left arm of Z and cameo is on lower right of Z they are not alleles, in this case you could have purple split cameo or vice versa. if they are alleles, it means both cameo and purple are located on the same locus.. then a purple cannot be split cameo, vice versa. but they still can be split for opal or whatever.​

 

[Doug the Chicken Man]

Don't know if you have contacted Henk69 but he has the Peacock calculatorat the follsoing Site. He may be able to include some of your info to improve the calculator so it is usable for everyone.

He created lots of calculators including the chicken, duck, ghinea fowl.

Must copy the whole link into the browser.

http://kippenjungle.nl/kruisingFlex...ed;White marked;,C;RP;Dark;pied;White marked;

His home page to other calculators.

http://kippenjungle.nl/Overzicht.htm#othercalculatorEN