WE have only had to kill predators TWICE in the six years we have had chickens. Once was because it was a mother and young raccoon who killed fifteen birds in our flock over a period of time and simply would not go away, and we felt terrible about killing them. The other time, most recently, was rats. If you want to call them predators, they do eat the viable eggs and young chicks. And again, it was a scenario where we had no other choice. Killing predators b/c there is no time or money to deal with them in another way has never even crossed my mind. We live in the woods and understand that all things need to eat, and we welcome and provide habitat for wildlife. It is up to us to come up with workable solutions, that are not lethal, as far as protecting our livestock. And we have. Everyone can, if you think about it, and research it.