I agree. But I have noticed that some hatcheries have stronger stock of some breeds and weaker in others. So it pays to ask around.Well these are all hatchery stock that we are talking about so they are all going to have their own problems with their birds when it comes to representing the respective breeds. Joey if you are wanting to get high quality birds that have good genes and can be used for breeding or for showing, then as it has been recommended to myself, buy good show quality. However there is nothing wrong with starting off with hatchery stock birds if you are just wanting to get started and have a small flock for pets/eggs/meat etc. As long as they are happy and healthy that's all that really matters. But do take some advice from me as I am still learning myself. Chickens while they of course can be rather cost effective usually wind up being quite a bit more expensive than you would originally think. And sometimes it can be worth it to pay the extra cash when getting chicks. But Good luck with your chicks from Ideal! The little fluff butts are always filled with fun and excitement. I can't wait till mine hatch next friday ^^