Caught neighbor's dog killing my birds!!! Neighbor denies everything!

[Quail_Antwerp]

We had a neighbor's dog that used to come over and not just harrass my poultry, but would go after our blue heelers as well. Well, we asked them twice to keep him home. Third time my father in law told them that the next time their dog showed up, he was going to shoot the dog and then invite them to dinner. :|

 

[Robin'sBrood]

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Just to clarify, no breed of dog is inherently dangerous just because of the breed. It is the owners responsibility to train the dog right no matter what breed it is. The only thing bad about a pitbull is it's immense popularity. I have been breeding and showing pitbulls for many years and I can tell you from experience that they are often the best behaved breed of dogs at the show.
Breeds of dogs are no different than races in people. Stereotyping breeds of dogs is no different than stereotyping races of people. "Doggie racism" if you will. Anyway, just thought I would give my honest opinion, that is based on YEARS of experience.

I understand what you're saying, and I agree. I come across nice pits and responsible owners all the time with my job. But, a person that lets a pit or a pit cross run loose and denies owning it probably isn't the kind of person that should own that breed. Agree?

 

[kyle7630]

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Just to clarify, no breed of dog is inherently dangerous just because of the breed. It is the owners responsibility to train the dog right no matter what breed it is. The only thing bad about a pitbull is it's immense popularity. I have been breeding and showing pitbulls for many years and I can tell you from experience that they are often the best behaved breed of dogs at the show.
Breeds of dogs are no different than races in people. Stereotyping breeds of dogs is no different than stereotyping races of people. "Doggie racism" if you will. Anyway, just thought I would give my honest opinion, that is based on YEARS of experience.

Kyle, you are probably correct. However, in my experience people don't breed pit bulls to other 'bully' breeds for benign reasons. There are waaay too many ineffectual people out there who would cherish having a large, muscular, usually untrained - or trained to do anti social things - dog to give them a false sense of self esteem. Sadly too many people don't know their inherent value and force beautiful, noble dogs into roles that can only lead to disaster. JMH observations.

Pupsnpullets, what you wrote is sad, but true. Even by your words though, it's still the dogs that are shouldering the burdens that should clearly be attributed to the irresponsible owners of the dogs. When people start to single out breeds, pass breed specific legislation, and try to exterminate breeds, they are IMO, just as much a part of the problem. They are trying to slap a band-aid on the much larger issue of people not controling their dogs. A dog is only as good as the owner teaches them to be. JMO. Sorry for getting off topic. It just pains me to watch a great and noble breed of dog's demise at the hands of ignorant people who won't bother to see the truth.

 

[SpottedCrow]

As bad as I feel for the dog, some people shouldn't own anything more than a pet rock!

I'm sorry for the loss of your birds...

I'd definitely clobber the neighbour with a broom handle...sharpened would be better.

 

[sundance]

I have a pitt bull named Miss Mia and you can believe it or not, she protects my chickens. Its the owner NOT the dog. any dog will kill if not raised right, I have to watch my yorkie closer than any of the other dogs and he is the smallest, He just wants to play. Sorry for my rant, but pitts have a bad name and its the owners fault. if they are given love like a small dog they will love you and protect you very well, or at least Miss Mia does my DH. He is very hard of hearing and she is always at his side if he is outside, she will see a snake and protect him. They are great dogs. marrie

 

[KellyGwen]

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I'm sorry... but I have to disagree with you. Breeds of dogs ARE different. You wouldn't expect an english bulldog to have the same prey drive as a greyhound for example. And it would be the RARE border collie that I would EVER trust around my sheep unsupervised (she would most likely herd them to death). Dog breeds have been selectively bred to enhance certain characteristics, such as herding, protectiveness, etc and they are CERTAINLY more pronounced in some breeds than in others. You would most likely have to handle a doberman differently than you would a golden retriever. I am not saying that some dogs are inherently "bad", they just need to be in the right places and given the right jobs for the drives that have been enhanced in that particular breed. Each individual IS different and I have met a few VERY aggressive labs and a few mushy snuggly rotties... but each breed DOES have a "preferred" temperament that has been selectively bred for...

Ok, I'll stop now

 

[Lunachick]

How is the duck doing chic-n-farmer?

 

[kyle7630]

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I'm sorry... but I have to disagree with you. Breeds of dogs ARE different. You wouldn't expect an english bulldog to have the same prey drive as a greyhound for example. And it would be the RARE border collie that I would EVER trust around my sheep unsupervised (she would most likely herd them to death). Dog breeds have been selectively bred to enhance certain characteristics, such as herding, protectiveness, etc and they are CERTAINLY more pronounced in some breeds than in others. You would most likely have to handle a doberman differently than you would a golden retriever. I am not saying that some dogs are inherently "bad", they just need to be in the right places and given the right jobs for the drives that have been enhanced in that particular breed. Each individual IS different and I have met a few VERY aggressive labs and a few mushy snuggly rotties... but each breed DOES have a "preferred" temperament that has been selectively bred for...

Ok, I'll stop now

The dogs you spoke of were still trained to do their assigned tasks. A boader collie doesn't come out herding just as a lab doesn't come out retrieving ducks. It is learned behavior. Prey drive is different from dog to dog in poodles and grey hounds alike. Dogs have been selectively bred for certian traits yes, but they are physical. A blood hounds nose, a grey hounds streamline body, a coon hounds bay, a husky's thick coat and bushy tail, ect... These are all physical atributes that help the dogs excell at the tasks they are commonly bred for. One example of this is that if you were to give a DNA sample to a specialist, they could not tell you what breed of dog it came from because all breeds share the same basic DNA structure. It's the dogs physicalities that set them apart, not their mentalities. All of the breeds and jobs you wrote about had to be taught to them. Otherwise would be an exception, not the rule. I have bred/shown pitbulls for over 15 years. This doesn't make me an expert, but I would say it gives me alot more knowledge than a non owner. Pitbulls often excell at SAR, herding, therapy, obediance and many other activities, but again, these are all learned behaviors. It's unfair to lable them if you don't know anything about them other than what you hear or read. JMO feel free to email me for more info as this post is getting further off topic than it should. [email protected]

 

[chick4chicks]

I am sorry this happened to your pets. Don't feel bad about the dog it could have been your husband or kids that got hurt. You did what you had to do.

 

[SterlingAcres]

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ITA 100%.


I'm sorry this happened to your birds. It wasn't your fault, it was the irresponsible owners fault. Don't feel bad.