Celadon questions and integration questions!

[kurby22]

I have tried a number of things…originally i had all my non-Celadons in one pen that was apparently 1 hen and 6 males. And a Celadon pen with 2 males and one hen (none had crowed yet so I had no clue who was male yet). That resulted in one of the males getting severely beaten in the head area. We learned he was male while he was in isolation healing and crowed for an hour each morning at 5am. So, I let him heal and tried putting him back and it started up again…so I thought okay, male jail then…I’ll put all the crowing birds in one and hens in another.

I made the males only pen…and they practically took the eye out of one of the males…there were 4 in a 8 sq ft pen…

I didn’t realize that one of my falb fees that had some speckles on its chest was a male…nor the other grau fee that is never seen crow till they crowed at me two days ago…so I thought I had 4 hens together in a 9 sq ft pen with Silvie my super passive male. This resulted in the ones that were males that I thought were hens—to gang up on the Celadon hen.

So now, I have the super beat up male in isolation. I have the 4 males that seem very aggressive in the one pen that is 8 sq ft. And I have the two most passive males and the two hens together in the 9 sq ft pen. I have someone willing to take three of my males but not till Wednesday…so I’m just trying to find a dynamic that will work till then without one of them just plain killing one of them. Although at this point that might resolve a lot of my issues I think my Rosetta that escaped and got attacked by my dog was the other hen and it messed with things it seems :-(

I am also not sure now what is basic male attempts to mount the hens and what is just bullying! My hens look so stressed out now :-(

 

[FloorCandy]

I am also not sure now what is basic male attempts to mount the hens and what is just bullying! My hens look so stressed out now :-(

With that many males, even normal mounting is probably painful, as they’re constantly getting grabbed. They will lose head and back feathers as the males tear them out with constant mounting.

 

[ChanP]

However if they are getting completely bald heads or bleeding you need to separate them straight away to stop it getting worse.

 

[kurby22]

However if they are getting completely bald heads or bleeding you need to separate them straight away to stop it getting worse.

Yeah, I can’t believe how fast things can go from everyone is happy to bloody and maybe blind in one eye :-( my Falb Fee male can no longer see out of his one eye…it didn’t look like they pecked the eye but it looks angry and hoping just swelled shut for now. Poor guy was really bloody! And here I was worried about the hens! So far only my Celadon hen has been beat up till she was bloody—the other two hens are fine. I have isolated quail all over the place healing! Learning to vent sex males didn’t happen soon enough! Poor baby girl, she’s so timid and small! I finally found a mix that works…I have a male jail and a hen den and the hen den has my passive Silver male, Silvie. The male jail has had scuffles but no blood since I removed the key troublemaker!