cesar millan fans

[texasgirl]

I take the parts that I like from him and leave the rest.
I think I like Victoria Stillwell better overall.
I've always trained my dogs from what I think works best and have always had lots of success...
Can someone teach me how to train a cat though

 

[BeardedChick]

I like watching Cesar work with really difficult dogs.

My husband installs phone equipment in people's homes, and uses Cesar's techniques when they have unruly dogs. He sometimes amazes people by getting their dominant or obnoxious dogs to calm down and sit at his feet by projecting calm, assertive energy.

Cesar used the shock collar on a dog where the owner already had one, and the problem was the dog running at the farm equipment and biting tires. He made one or two corrections, and the dog stopped attacking the tire.

 

[DawnSuiter]

I enjoy both Victoria & Cesar... Cesar reminds me of growing up, because like him, my grandmother disciplined us the same way (I'm Cuban btw) and so there is so much familiar about how he thinks... Victoria also has much to contribute and her concepts are similar yet address the needs of humans more than Cesar.

I use whatever technique works for whatever dog. I have a variety of dogs, and each has their own personality. Working at the shelter, & rehabing dogs also requires me to use a technique that applies to whatever dog I'm working with.

And then.. there are the dogs who don't respond to either methods.. .like my Sasha. Somehow this doxy/akita mix responds as a shepard would, with eye contact & intention. I needn't scold or say anything to her, only look at her with my intentions and she knows. She likes to run & jump & play frisbee and play in the water..

Another, Ginger, phycho crazy dog, employs the treadmill, backpack and much much discipline, we are always excercising who is in charge, because she's like Teddy Pom Pom, if you Stillwell fans remember him. She doesn't know how to play but will do ANY type of trick you ask of her

Angel.... she's an angel.. she won't do anything wrong, and any rise in our own energy sends her cowering... therefore a high pitched squaky voice is about the only thing that will bring her out of her shell. She's a porch dog, doesn't eveer want to come inside, could care less about the chickens

Boy.. the new outside dog. He's different, requires more of a Cesar way combined with Stillwell... He gets many enthusiastic GOOD BOY comments as well as Cesars strict approach about whos boss. He's still a puppy and it's taken a month or so, but he's doing well.

the list goes on but the truth is each dog has a purpose & an individual personality, and if I don't meet their needs they don't respond well at all. And I love ANY trainer who is willing to teach humans that their dogs are not trophys or stuffed animals, but are alive and have needs of their own besides some food.

Someone said they wanted their cats trained... I've never had a cat that wasn't.. what kind of training do you want to do?

 

[texasgirl]

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Train her not to bite, scratch, attack, tear things up, jump on everything and knock it over, hates to be touched by anyone but the dog,.
She was taken away from her mother and littermates as a tiny baby and was in isolation for almost two months getting lyme dipped and medicated for ringworm. She has never had any proper cat-to-cat socialization so she has no manners and doesn't know her boundaries or how to act around other people or animals. She is quite bonded to the dog, but in an unhealthy way, she kneads and grooms and "nurses" on her some.
I don't know how to "fix" that.

 

[DawnSuiter]

Train her not to bite, scratch, attack, tear things up, jump on everything and knock it over, hates to be touched by anyone but the dog,.
She was taken away from her mother and littermates as a tiny baby and was in isolation for almost two months getting lyme dipped and medicated for ringworm. She has never had any proper cat-to-cat socialization so she has no manners and doesn't know her boundaries or how to act around other people or animals. She is quite bonded to the dog, but in an unhealthy way, she kneads and grooms and "nurses" on her some.
I don't know how to "fix" that.

Obviously the solutions you seek will come with many months of consistant effort and are quite complicated. I'm going to send you a pm if thats ok, or perhaps we can meet in the chatroom sometime?

First... polite social behaviors would exclude biting, scratching or attacking people or other animals

Second... jumping on things, knocking things over can be addressed however IMO only in a compromise. I choose to see this issue as a compromise in that they are forbidden from jumping on CERTAIN things but are allowed to jump on others. Also... those things that they are allowed to jump on are "kitty proofed" if you will where easily breakable or valuable items are removed from that surface/area. Also, items JUST FOR THEM are included throughout the house, they are floor to ceiling cat trees, and several short scratching post/houses, along with toys scattered here and there... an by toys I mean, milk jug caps & saftey rings, a paper bag or two, a hairtie or two, a ball of aluminum foil.. and so on.

Now, its good she's bonded with the dog IMO that means she has the idea, she just doens't trust anyone else. That takes time and can be done. My first rescue was a feral male that had been abandoned in an upstairs LA apt for over 9 months since being a kitten. The landlord had been throwing him food but couldn't get in the door to visit with him. I walked in that apt with my arms in denim, secured the cat using an oven mit, threw it into a carrier and took it home. 9 months later Kalani was sleeping at the foot of my bed, 1 year later he was "normal" and then I rescued another, a year later, another... and so on.

It can be done, but the approach is different IMO depending on how long the cat has been set in his/her "ways". How old is the kitty and how long has she been living in your house this way?​

 

[hensdeliverthegoods]

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Where is the proof of your statements?

 

[DawnSuiter]

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Any search of the internet will yeild the information you seek as proof. I knew all of that and I am still a fan of Cesars. Most of this is mentnioned on his own website, or was for a long time. No secret, lawsuits are public knowlege.

He, IMO, is like anything in life, if your a student of life, as I am... you learn to take the good with the bad, and to learn all you can and about the WHY it's done to create a system that works for you in your life.. YOUR way.

I believe in all of his methods, just as many others who have methods completely contradictory. I was raised in a "Show" environment and have seen everything under the sun. There isn't anything "new" about Cesars techniques, and he freely admits that. Every dog, every situation is different, and they should be addressed as individuals, which they are.

Cesars issue with Americans and the traditional dog world here is that he sees them as dogs only... most American's feel differently, as their dogs are part of their family.

 

[Oblio13]

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There are plenty of cats in the world.

Just sayin'...

 

[hensdeliverthegoods]

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Any search of the internet will yeild the information you seek as proof. I knew all of that and I am still a fan of Cesars. Most of this is mentnioned on his own website, or was for a long time. No secret, lawsuits are public knowlege.

He, IMO, is like anything in life, if your a student of life, as I am... you learn to take the good with the bad, and to learn all you can and about the WHY it's done to create a system that works for you in your life.. YOUR way.

I believe in all of his methods, just as many others who have methods completely contradictory. I was raised in a "Show" environment and have seen everything under the sun. There isn't anything "new" about Cesars techniques, and he freely admits that. Every dog, every situation is different, and they should be addressed as individuals, which they are.

Cesars issue with Americans and the traditional dog world here is that he sees them as dogs only... most American's feel differently, as their dogs are part of their family.

I agree that his methods are nothing new, just good common sense. I'm just happy that he has a wide audience for getting that message out. However, I rarely take "information" from the Internet as the gospel truth. I think if all that was true, National Geographic would have yanked the show off the air. Just my opinion...

 

[BeardedChick]

I just had lunch watching Dog Whisperer... And in this episode, Cesar called in a dog trainer to teach the dog's handlers clicker training after the dog had some basic training using Cesar's methods. This was the one filmed at a firehouse with a dalmation, the C/T guy was teaching the dog "Stop Drop and Roll".

I think it would be really cool if there was more synergy on Cesar's show with other trainers who use positive reinforcement methods.