Chantecler Thread!

[hellbender]

Any words of wisdom I have some eggs ordered and am wondering is there any thing that I need to watch for in this breed

That's a question generally asked BEFORE one orders eggs...lol Hopefully you checked out the seller and have a good understanding what their stock looks like.

Good luck. I'm happy that more andmore folks are getting into this breed. It should be easier for you to get at the better stock, considering where you live. Those of use in the States have to be artful and very lucky to get anything worthwhile to begin with.

Again...Best of luck

RON

 

[angry rooster]

That's a question generally asked BEFORE one orders eggs...lol  Hopefully you checked out the seller and have a good understanding what their stock looks like.
I have don my research on the breed and have called the hatchery but I can only take the internet info at face value and the breeder is byest
So what I am asking is what problems have you had with them verses other breeds
Health wise
Do they fly the coop (do I have to cage them to keep them
And so on tell me your problems

Good luck.  I'm happy that more andmore folks are getting into this breed.  It should be easier for you to get at the better stock, considering where you live.  Those of use in the States have to be artful and very lucky to get anything worthwhile to begin with.

Again...Best of luck

RON

 

[hellbender]

When Chantecler are young, they certainly can and do fly but mine are absolutely free-range. When I open the barn door, they are free to go pretty well where they want. Early evenings, they fly up into the branches of the orchard which is near the house bur that's just to rest and preen before they get their hand full of scratch.

I can honestly say, I have no problems that come to mind, other than the birds being underfoot when they want something. If you start feeding them a snack at certain times of day, they expect it and will come to the kitchen door and demand it. I have a 5 foot fence around my house to keep chickens out but that doesn't stop them if I'm more than 5 or 10 minutes late...I might as well leave the gate open. I have a couple dogs that follow the main flock around during the day that protects them from any predators that could be bold enough to come in during the day. They are white and do stand out and they go far afield so without protection, losses would be high to coyotes and the like but I have a pack of 'night dogs' as well that make such scourges stay away from the main property. Fact is, these night dogs would likely be harder on the chickens than wild animals if the birds weren't locked in solid at night and the about the second chore after milking is locking in those dogs before going into the barns to collect eggs at about 10AM. SO.....I'm hard pressed to find fault with these birds...unless you bring trouble upon yourself like keeping too high a ratio of cockerels.cock birds but even they don't generally fight to the death...they would however breed the hens to death.

Oh...they aren't the best birds on very hot days, like over 90*f but those days are rare in WV but I do have plenty of shade and cold water (with ice) and generally turn on water sprinklers by noon on those very hot days.

 

[bruceha2000]

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Good luck. I'm happy that more and more folks are getting into this breed. It should be easier for you to get at the better stock, considering where you live.

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Again...Best of luck

RON

Oh, that suggests something to my puny mind. I live all of 20 miles from the Canadian border. If there were a quality purveyor of White Chanteclers between here and Montreal (generally) could I bring them into Vermont without saying to the Customs Agent "um, no *I* don't hear any chickens."? Are there laws against it or laws permitting as long as you fill out paperwork?

When Chantecler are young, they certainly can and do fly but mine are absolutely free-range. When I open the barn door, they are free to go pretty well where they want. Early evenings, they fly up into the branches of the orchard which is near the house bur that's just to rest and preen before they get their hand full of scratch.

I can honestly say, I have no problems that come to mind, other than the birds being underfoot when they want something. If you start feeding them a snack at certain times of day, they expect it and will come to the kitchen door and demand it. I have a 5 foot fence around my house to keep chickens out but that doesn't stop them if I'm more than 5 or 10 minutes late...I might as well leave the gate open.

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Mine would fly on occasion but like all the rest of my birds were more likely to put their heads down, clamp their wings to their sides and run like mad if they really wanted to get somewhere. Flying was reserved for going over fences that kept them on the side I wanted them on, as long as THEY also wanted to be on that side My fences are only 4' though but I am quite certain they could get up to a 5' fence if they wanted given the lack of real effort needed to get atop the 4' fences.

I guess it is a good thing my chickens only get morning BOSS outside the barn door (in decent weather) or in the barn alley (their indoor run) and their nighttime scratch is always in the alley outside the coop. They are surely beggars and will come running up from the barn in the evening then follow me back to the barn, I don't need them knocking at the door

 

[3riverschick]

Actually, although they are free range, the best of my cockerels is massively built, very,very broad in the back and heavily boned...so obvious in the shanks. But he doesn't look 'clunky'.

No, not clunky,....chunky. Smile. broader, deeper. Reads like you already have that in your birds, Ron.
Best,
Karen

 

[Folly's place]

There are definitely laws and regulations concerning the importation of poultry and eggs from Canada (or anywhere!). Paperwork, fees, veterinary inspection, the whole works. Also penalties for getting caught. I thinks it's the USDA website for information. Rules can change at any time, depending on current disease concerns, so find the latest information. Mary

 

[hellbender]

There are definitely laws and regulations concerning the importation of poultry and eggs from Canada (or anywhere!). Paperwork, fees, veterinary inspection, the whole works. Also penalties for getting caught. I thinks it's the USDA website for information. Rules can change at any time, depending on current disease concerns, so find the latest information. Mary

Thanks Mary...Everything is under control.

 

[Cockatrice6420]

Hey, HB, they've got your breed in focus! You must be finding some new comrades, lol.

 

[bruceha2000]

There are definitely laws and regulations concerning the importation of poultry and eggs from Canada (or anywhere!). Paperwork, fees, veterinary inspection, the whole works. Also penalties for getting caught. I thinks it's the USDA website for information. Rules can change at any time, depending on current disease concerns, so find the latest information. Mary

Yeah, I figured

Just paying a Vet in Canada would probably make it financially unfeasible.


Poultry Import from Canada
Poultry imported from Canada into the United States are not required to be quarantined. However, the poultry must be accompanied by a veterinary health certificate issued within 30 days of importation and endorsed by a full-time salaried veterinarian of the Canadian government. The poultry must be inspected by a USDA veterinarian at the first U.S. port of entry.
An import permit is not required for poultry imported from Canada through a U.S. - Canadian land border port. However, if the poultry enters the United States through an air or sea port, an import permit (VS Form17-129) (fillable pdf 75kb) is required.


Health certificates that accompany Canadian live avian shipments must indicate that:

• Poultry have been inspected prior to export by the veterinarian issuing the health certificate;
• Poultry were either vaccinated for Newcastle disease at least 21 days prior to export and with a vaccine that does not contain any velogenic strains; OR were not vaccinated for Newcastle disease. (The health certificate should indicate which applies);
• Poultry have not been vaccinated with a vaccine for any H5 or H7 subtype of avian influenza, and have not transited through regions/ premises where any HPAI subtype exists while en route to the United States;
• No evidence of Newcastle disease or any communicable disease of poultry was found during the ninety (90) days preceding exportation from the premises of origin;
• The premise of origin has not been under quarantine for any poultry disease during the preceding ninety (90) days;
• As much as can be determined, the poultry were not exposed to communicable diseases of poultry during the ninety (90) days immediately prior to the inspection date;
• The flock of origin tested negative within 90 days of export for Type D Salmonellas;
• Were shipped in new or appropriately sanitized containers prior to current use.

Soooo, what if I "happened" to find some nice White Chantecler pullets wandering around in the Haskell Free Library and Opera House??
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haskell_Free_Library_and_Opera_House


JUST KIDDING!!!!!

 

[Cockatrice6420]

Yeah, I figured :/ Just paying a Vet in Canada would probably make it financially unfeasible.
Poultry Import from Canada
Poultry imported from Canada into the United States are not required to be quarantined. However, the poultry must be accompanied by a veterinary health certificate issued within 30 days of importation and endorsed by a full-time salaried veterinarian of the Canadian government. The poultry must be inspected by a USDA veterinarian at the first U.S. port of entry.
An import permit is not required for poultry imported from Canada through a U.S. - Canadian land border port. However, if the poultry enters the United States through an air or sea port, an import permit (VS Form17-129 ) (fillable pdf 75kb) is required. Health certificates that accompany Canadian live avian shipments must indicate that:

• Poultry have been inspected prior to export by the veterinarian issuing the health certificate;
• Poultry were either vaccinated for Newcastle disease at least 21 days prior to export and with a vaccine that does not contain any velogenic strains; OR were not vaccinated for Newcastle disease. (The health certificate should indicate which applies);
• Poultry have not been vaccinated with a vaccine for any H5 or H7 subtype of avian influenza, and have not transited through regions/ premises where any HPAI subtype exists while en route to the United States;
• No evidence of Newcastle disease or any communicable disease of poultry was found during the ninety (90) days preceding exportation from the premises of origin;
• The premise of origin has not been under quarantine for any poultry disease during the preceding ninety (90) days;
• As much as can be determined, the poultry were not exposed to communicable diseases of poultry during the ninety (90) days immediately prior to the inspection date;
• The flock of origin tested negative within 90 days of export for Type D Salmonellas;
• Were shipped in new or appropriately sanitized containers prior to current use.

Soooo, what if I "happened" to find some nice White Chantecler pullets wandering around in the Haskell Free Library and Opera House?? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haskell_Free_Library_and_Opera_House JUST KIDDING!!!!!

I looked into importing native Chilean birds, looking and talking is all I did.... it was going to be over 1500 dollars US per bird for all quarantines, care, space rental, and vet.... uh I need to win the power ball.