Chase, capture or kill?

I feel for you as I too am having problems with hawks this year. Having a covered run or tractor for them is a must until it or they decide to move on. Even then, I wouldn't trust my birds out unless I was right there with them at all times. You said you just moved into this house? Find out why they are hanging around. Did the last owner feed them? Sounds stupid and also is against the law but it happens. Did they also have chickens and just let the raptors take them? This bird, from what you described isn't afraid of humans. It should be or at least wary enough to not want to be close to humans. Something is up with that and I would be contacting the Game Dept. for your area and let them know. Also tell them you cannot allow the loses to go on. You obviously have these birds for a reason, be it food, eggs, whatever, you also have rights under the same laws that protect the raptors. If you have taken every oppurtunity available to protect your birds and can prove this, they can and usually will remove the bird from the area. Wind chimes, old CD's hung from trees so they will flash with reflected light, pointing at the bird so it knows you are watching, sometimes help. Truthfully though, it sounds to me like something is/has gone on there to make this bird act this way.

Sorry I can't be more help.

Sorry didnt mean to hijack the thread-- I wasnt the original OP (what does OP stand for?) just chiming in about a similar situation at my house, although we did just move here over the summer..Havent lost any to any predators, but heard that it is best if the Hawks dont learn to eat your chickens (prevention is best for sure) and am very happy to have bloodlessly dissuaded it...
 
You need to confine your birds in a PREDATOR PROOF pen for a fer weeks, until the hawk looks elsewhere. Adult full-sized birds are pretty safe out there; babies aren't, My worst predators have been racoons and possoms, not hawks. Small cages are death traps; the bird needs to be untouchable from all sides. Bitter experience!!! Mary
I've noticed that the roosters on the tie cords don't get messed with and they're a pretty good alarm system! That's how I know when its out there. But It goes after my full sized hens that are running on the yard! ALL my babies are in brooders. I pull them after 3 days with their mommies! One of our chicken buddies told me a trick of tying some old cd's or dvd's to the trees and that would scare them off. Do you know if this is true?
 
It makes me chuckle to see those who post about killing and harassing birds of prey. They are protected for good reason. If they were not, everyone who had a flock of birds which were not protected well enough otherwise...or small dogs that roam all over freely, or cats, whatever...would be shooting them out of the sky to the point of extinction. Is that the legacy we want future generations to have? No wildlife left except in zoos because we have encroached on them to the point that they are the enemy and have to be eliminated from our little space on this planet.

Either accept that you WILL lose birds on occasion if you free range, or pen them securely enough to keep them safe from ALL predators. Do not blame a predator for taking an easy meal. It's like putting a buffet down in front of a fat kid. :p
That's why I asked if anyone knew how to CAPTURE for relocation first! Or for tips on SCARING them off. I DON'T relish the thought of killing ANYTHING that isn't for consumption. I understand the NATURE of things and know I'll loose a few birds, not only to hawks, but a MULTITUDE of different predators.......this is just the one I'm having issues with NOW.
 
I feel for you as I too am having problems with hawks this year. Having a covered run or tractor for them is a must until it or they decide to move on. Even then, I wouldn't trust my birds out unless I was right there with them at all times. You said you just moved into this house? Find out why they are hanging around. Did the last owner feed them? Sounds stupid and also is against the law but it happens. Did they also have chickens and just let the raptors take them? This bird, from what you described isn't afraid of humans. It should be or at least wary enough to not want to be close to humans. Something is up with that and I would be contacting the Game Dept. for your area and let them know. Also tell them you cannot allow the loses to go on. You obviously have these birds for a reason, be it food, eggs, whatever, you also have rights under the same laws that protect the raptors. If you have taken every oppurtunity available to protect your birds and can prove this, they can and usually will remove the bird from the area. Wind chimes, old CD's hung from trees so they will flash with reflected light, pointing at the bird so it knows you are watching, sometimes help. Truthfully though, it sounds to me like something is/has gone on there to make this bird act this way.

Sorry I can't be more help.
No, NO! Don't be sorry! This helped alot! I JUST had a friend with chickens tell me about the cd's and you confirmed it! We have LOTS of hiding places for the free range. I don't think the last owner FED them but can't say for sure. I know they didn't have chickens though. We didn't start seeing it till about 2 weeks ago and it's NOT afraid of humans. Wind chimes, hu? I have some of those! I just need to spread 'em out throughout the yard! Thanks for the input!
 
Sorry didnt mean to hijack the thread-- I wasnt the original OP (what does OP stand for?) just chiming in about a similar situation at my house, although we did just move here over the summer..Havent lost any to any predators, but heard that it is best if the Hawks dont learn to eat your chickens (prevention is best for sure) and am very happy to have bloodlessly dissuaded it...
Lol, I'm sorry as well, I thought I was replying to the original person. Doesn't matter though, the laws are still the same.The same laws that protect these birds also protect us. If you can show you have taken every precaution [ie; covered area for them to be in, and other deterants to passively scare them away] you can to protect your livestock and you are still losing them, the Dept of Fish and Wildlife has to step in and remove the offender. Don't take my word for it though, look it up yourself and you will be armed before you contact the authorities. Again, you have the right to protect what is yours, just go through the proper channels to get it done and all will be well in the end.
 
I've noticed that the roosters on the tie cords don't get messed with and they're a pretty good alarm system! That's how I know when its out there. But It goes after my full sized hens that are running on the yard! ALL my babies are in brooders. I pull them after 3 days with their mommies! One of our chicken buddies told me a trick of tying some old cd's or dvd's to the trees and that would scare them off. Do you know if this is true?
yes the CD's do work as well as anything else. Predators, flying or on all fours do not like things that flash. Their instincts tell them that the flashes are eyes that are hunting them. That's why those red lights work, they imitate the red shine you get when you flash a light into an animals eyes at night. The CD's or anything else that will wink and shine in the light will do the same thing. Day or night. Again, you need to provide a secure place for the hens when you can't be there with them. I cannot stress this enough. This hawk may move on once it realises you're not running a 'fly through' for it's meals but then again it might not. If you don't make all the changes you possibly can to protect your birds, you will not have a leg to stand on when and if you try to convince the authorities you need help.
 
No, NO! Don't be sorry! This helped alot! I JUST had a friend with chickens tell me about the cd's and you confirmed it! We have LOTS of hiding places for the free range. I don't think the last owner FED them but can't say for sure. I know they didn't have chickens though. We didn't start seeing it till about 2 weeks ago and it's NOT afraid of humans. Wind chimes, hu? I have some of those! I just need to spread 'em out throughout the yard! Thanks for the input!
DUH!! Just saw this reply. Another thing comes to mind though. They sell 'boomers', can't remember the real name, at some farm supply stores and hunting supply places as well. They go on top of a grill gas bottle and make random booms like a gun going off. I have no idea about where you live or how close your neighbors are. If they're close, within a 1/4 mile, I'd say this isn't for you. The thing is loud but very effective. Farmers use it to keep the crows, ect., out of their fields. I know of people that have used it in the past and after two days there were no crows, no deer, no coyotes, bear.....nothing, for a while. I think it lasted for about a month. You could also run out anytime you know they're near and beat on a metal pan, can, what have you, but your neighbors might not understand. You have to make what it considers it's hunting ground to be so undesirable that it moves on. That's another reason to point at it either with your hand or a stick. You have to let it know YOU are the dominant one and you are 'hunting' it.
 
That's why I asked if anyone knew how to CAPTURE for relocation first! Or for tips on SCARING them off. I DON'T relish the thought of killing ANYTHING that isn't for consumption. I understand the NATURE of things and know I'll loose a few birds, not only to hawks, but a MULTITUDE of different predators.......this is just the one I'm having issues with NOW.

as myself and others have said, all of those things are illegal when talking about birds of prey. You can't scare them off, definitely can't trap them, and shooting them is illegal. Your only options are to make your yard a less attractive place to hunt by providing hiding places for your birds or other passive methods such as hanging CDs or decoys. Anything else is a federal violation and can carry a pretty hefty fine or even jail time.
 

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