Chat Thread for the New Crazy 24 hour Auction

[Phage]

You are welcome

 

[orumpoultry]

I don't mind showing people around that I know. Or people I've sold to before, or people that don't get me as off. Its the general public I am concerned with... If that makes sense. I grew up in 3rd ward and we couldn't have people coming on site to see birds. They couldn't know where we were. Most people that came down our driveway were there to ate something, and, ten years after moving away from all that nonsense I just can't get past it.

I also don't like a bunch of chicken people over because I don't want them bringing in diseases my birds aren't exposed to and infecting my flock. We have quarantine pens set up away from the rest of the birds that all new feathered peeps go in. Just in case.

Its why I don't mine getting eggs to start with.

 

[SunnySky]

If I'm selling something I think the buyer has every right to come see the parents or how my animals are kept. If people don't want that then sell through auctions. In my experience people who don't want to show you their animals have something to hide.

As a breeder (and seller) I will absolutely not allow anyone to my farm. I will show them pictures of the breeding stock and of the pens, etc. If they can't respect or understand the reasons for it then they're not worth my time in selling them birds. It's not about hiding anything at all. Rather, it's about protecting your investments; it's about biosecurity. Any given person can track disease onto your property via their clothing or shoes, even the tires on their cars.

When I became NPIP certified the state vet that came to my farm asked about my visitor policy. He stated it is so important for people to understand how risky it is to allow anyone off the street to come visit your chickens. A person can lose their NPIP status for improper biosecurity like that not to mention their whole flocks to sickness and disease. I chose to become NPIP certified so I can ship birds and eggs all over the country. Even if I hadn't, I still would adopt a strict no-visitor policy. I have too much invested in my birds to not.

I understand where you might think we have something to hide but many people don't, they just are very serious about health and biosecurity of their chickens.

 

[SunnySky]

i have a newbie question for you guys. If you buy purebred chickens that are supposed to be from certain lines or of a certain stock, how do you know that is what you are getting? Do chickens have any kind of registration papers like horses and dogs? Does anyone require DNA testing for shows? Is it more of an honor system type of thing (Buy from people you trust)?

I've only really had hatchery birds in the past but was wondering about how the good breeders do it.

You can check with the original breeder the person states their birds are from. For example, if you buy chicks from Joe Blow and Joe Blow says he bought his breeders from 123 Farm, you can contact 123 Farm and give them Joe Blow's name and ask them if they eve sold that person birds of whatever breed they're selling. If they say 'no' then you know Joe Blow was lying and their birds may not be what they're telling you. Or 123 Farm will say 'yes' and you know they did come from that certain stock. That's really the only way to know if you're really getting what is being advertised. Hope that helps.

 

[valleychicks]

I didn't mean to cause a problem. I mean it would be great to meet someone to get the eggs. I don't really want to see their setup or anything. Just get eggs I win or purchase in a BIN in close by towns rather that them being shipped 2 1/2 hours in the opposite direction just to get sorted, x-rayed, drop kicked, who knows what, etc. That is all. If someone is selling eggs from further away from us then yeah ship them.

 

[enola]

As a breeder (and seller) I will absolutely not allow anyone to my farm. I will show them pictures of the breeding stock and of the pens, etc. If they can't respect or understand the reasons for it then they're not worth my time in selling them birds. It's not about hiding anything at all. Rather, it's about protecting your investments; it's about biosecurity. Any given person can track disease onto your property via their clothing or shoes, even the tires on their cars.

When I became NPIP certified the state vet that came to my farm asked about my visitor policy. He stated it is so important for people to understand how risky it is to allow anyone off the street to come visit your chickens. A person can lose their NPIP status for improper biosecurity like that not to mention their whole flocks to sickness and disease. I chose to become NPIP certified so I can ship birds and eggs all over the country. Even if I hadn't, I still would adopt a strict no-visitor policy. I have too much invested in my birds to not.

I understand where you might think we have something to hide but many people don't, they just are very serious about health and biosecurity of their chickens.

Same here. I have nothing to hide. But, biosecurity is very important to me. I meet potential buyers at the local Wal~Mart.

 

[SunnySky]

Same here. I have nothing to hide. But, biosecurity is very important to me. I meet potential buyers at the local Wal~Mart.

I usually meet at a local restaurant parking lot or a nearby park. I usually joke that I feel like I'm doing some illegal exchange of something when someone pulls up next to me, I give them a carton of eggs or a box of chicks, they hand me money and we drive off in separate directions. I'm sure it looks bad to anyone watching lol. Totally worth it though.

 

[enola]

Years ago, i raised Australian Shepherds. A friend and I were to meet a young couple at the local livestock auction, but they were running a little late. A county sheriff kept cruising by and eyeing us. After about an hour, he finally pulled in the parking lot to ask us what we were up to..... He laughed when we informed him we were waiting to make a sale...... but just puppies, nothing illegal. He bought a puppy from me the next year, because he felt all kids should have a good dog......

By the way, I learned the hard way to take puppies out in the public, not to bring strangers into my home. I had four puppies stolen one day while I was at work!

 

[SunnySky]

Years ago, i raised Australian Shepherds. A friend and I were to meet a young couple at the local livestock auction, but they were running a little late. A county sheriff kept cruising by and eyeing us. After about an hour, he finally pulled in the parking lot to ask us what we were up to..... He laughed when we informed him we were waiting to make a sale...... but just puppies, nothing illegal. He bought a puppy from me the next year, because he felt all kids should have a good dog......

By the way, I learned the hard way to take puppies out in the public, not to bring strangers into my home. I had four puppies stolen one day while I was at work!

That story made me laugh - well, the part about the county sheriff did! That is awesome!

The part about someone stealing your puppies, that is awful!! So sad! I'm so sorry!!

 

[orumpoultry]

Valley I see your point though. If I order from ideal I sometimes just go get them... They're not that far from me.

This year though we will be getting NPIP certifications again, and I have to slam down on biosecurity again. Worse than we do now.