Chicken/Turkey wormer help

[Chicken Egg 17]

Ok so what would it be on a syringe

 

[Chicken Egg 17]

Ok thanks for the help I found a smaller ml syringe and gave it to her and was about to find the 0.4 ml mark thanks again for the help but I still have one question if it don't work after so long when can I give it to her again

 

[casportpony]

Ok thanks for the help I found a smaller ml syringe and gave it to her and was about to find the 0.4 ml mark thanks again for the help but I still have one question if it don't work after so long when can I give it to her again

Repeat in 10-14 days. If she does have tapes, the one dose should treat them.

-Kathy

 

[Chicken Egg 17]

Ok thanks

 

[Lady of McCamley]

@casportpony

Yes, that's what I read too...Fenbendazole has shown some effectiveness against the most common tape, but there is some inconclusiveness. Vets tend to still prescribe it for that purpose as a matter of course, even though it is not conclusive.

I've read and heard good things and bad things about internal worms and Ivermectin, and I honestly think it depends upon the population you've got in your area. Literature clearly shows worms build resistance to drugs, and worms have shown ability to build resistance to Ivermectin. I think some areas which have had over treatment of one type of med, Ivermectin in particular, become resistant.

Therefore, I personally prefer rotating control meds because of the tendency of worms to develop resistance. What works today won't tomorrow...so rotating helps to reduce resistance build up. It then becomes a case of trial and error for the poultry owner, with the wisest course to administer then take fecal samples, but often that is time consuming and not often done....so what tends to happen is administration and visual observation with colloquially reported results. Rotation, and literature, can help when fecal samples are not desired.

LofMc

A recent study showing effectiveness of Ivermectin, if given in repeated dosages over 3 to 4 weeks (EDITED: oops...this particular study shows fecal samples were taken over a course of month after one treatment...I have read a different study that I've misplaced that showed efficacy improved with repeated doses...will look for that):
http://www.medwelljournals.com/fulltext/?doi=rjpscience.2011.41.44
http://www.aensiweb.com/old/aeb/2011/2002-2005.pdf (same article in pdf form)

Older study referenced showing Ivermectin effectiveness on several worm types in poultry:
https://books.google.com/books?id=8...of ivermectin on helminths in poultry&f=false

EDITED TO ADD: this study found again while looking for the study that I know showed 2 control groups and that efficacy of Ivermectin improved over repeated dosages...will continue to look for that one...possible I've confused it with the standard usage of 3 treatments for mites/lice with Ivermectin:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2267731

A study done on pigeons showing efficacy of Ivermectin on nematodes
http://thejaps.org.pk/docs/16_1-2_2006/Basit.pdf

A study in Bangladesh showing efficacy of Ivermectin on nematodes for ducks:
http://eurasianjvetsci.org/pdf/pdf_EJVS_976.pdf

The Literature:

Merck's Veterinary Manual lists Ivermectin as effective (though not currently approved "on label")
http://www.merckvetmanual.com/mvm/poultry/helminthiasis/overview_of_helminthiasis_in_poultry.html

A typical study which shows the non-satisfactory results of Ivermectin (note it was only one treatment...the positive study showed that 3 to 4 treatments were necessary for eradication)
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1439-0450.1989.tb00635.x/abstract

Another synopsis of studies showing the non-efficacy of ivermectin, fenbendazole and oxfendazole in poultry for helminths
http://www.reeis.usda.gov/web/crisp...sms-established-in-arkansas-farm-animals.html


Since Ivermectin is cheap and easy to apply, it can be a good choice if your area (and more importantly flock) has not shown resistance.

 

[Chicken Egg 17]

Here is a pic of the worms she passed last night and they are dead so I think it's working I separated her from the chickens so the chickens arnt eating her worms and I am pretty sure they are tapes I hope u can see the pic ok

 

[casportpony]

Here is a pic of the worms she passed last night and they are dead so I think it's working I separated her from the chickens so the chickens arnt eating her worms and I am pretty sure they are tapes I hope u can see the pic ok

One of the books I have says to repeat the dose in 10-14 days, so be sure you don't forget.

Those two doses will treat what she has, but will not prevent another infestation, so don't be surprised if you see them again.

-Kathy

-Kathy

 

[Chicken Egg 17]

Ya I wrote it down in my folder I keep all of my chickens info in and I am sorry they are covered in sand as that's what's on the coop floor

 

[LBraden]

I have been stalking this post because I need to worm my chickens too. No hard core evidence of worms, just time to work them and I have a few that have been pulling feathers out around their vent.

Castportpony, what is the equation for figuring dosages on the Equimax? I have a few different sizes and need to weigh each and every one of them and figure individually. Also, at what age can I start worming? I have some 10 week old chicks (good grief, they seem much older than that... Where did the time go?!

) that might need to get a dose as well. Just so I have everyone on the same dosing schedule! Thanks!

 

[Chicken Egg 17]

Well I wouldn't worm them with horse wormer at that age not being fully grown so if I were u I would wait maybe a few more weeks but as I am not a worming expert or really knowing much about this as I know my chicken things but I would wait for a more expericed person to help like @casportpony. And @Lady of McCamley but I have only been raising and breeding chickens for a year and have not come across everything which is probably why u have asked for casportpony in the first place but goodluck