chickens dying daily! HELP!!!!

Oh the Possibilities!!!!!!!!!! While I cannot offer you a solution I can offer you some food for thoughts.

BTW I am west of you Middle TN. and have experienced two of my quail dieing, but about two weeks apart. Similar symptoms. No weasel. I changed feeds and it stopped.

I would strongly consider caging your birds and isolating the one you mention that is acting sick just in case it is Coccidia. Coccidia will kill within 2 or 3 days once it starts. I strongly believe because it dehydrates. Sterilize the containers with Ammonia as chlorine will not have any effect, but since you said there are no symptoms of such, use some bleach to clean the containers afterwords as well. Together the fumes are Toxic so don't mix. Coccidia can live in the ground for a very long time laying dormant.

Ponds are almost always contaminated with something bad. If its not the local farmers water supply for refilling the insecticide tanks, it could be accidental run off from a neighboring farmer or your own insecticides, maybe cleaning water source for that empty poison bucket or dead animal that fell. In saying that, Keep in mind that a pond is a water source for ALL wildlife and not an isolated water sourcee. Any of all wildlife and/or tame domesticated animals could be carrying a disease and contaminate the water supply for other animals. Just because one animal is immune does not mean it cant still be transferred to other animals if the water is contaminated. In saying that there are different strains of Coccidia for foul and Canines that do not seem to transfer.

The opossum is a baffling twist to the story and I am just wondering if it is just coincidental (maybe, maybe not). But I would not even consider the goats as their reputation is that they can eat or drink anything and keep going. Maybe because they have four stomachs. Still the story you told reminds me of the old story about DDT insecticide. It did not kill, but effected the eggs through the food chain causing them to be deformed or thin walled eggs and never hatch. The key word being FOOD CHAIN. DDT used to be used in gardens.
The Bug would eat the vegetable that had the DDT on it, a bird would eat the insect, the predator would eat the bird. All offspring would be deformed or DOA, thus ending the future populations In addition, the rains would come in and wash the DDT into the ground or creeks and also have the effect underground insects as well as some fish eggs.Fish eating the insects as well.
In such exasperated story, such may be the case with you using insecticides on the Jap Beatles or contaminated water source. Poor water is bad for birds in the first place. Fresh water is always recommended.

Still 1-2 birds dieing per day does sound Hinky and too consistently coincidental. Almost like a mink is getting them. Minks will bite and suck blood not eat. Sometimes they will rip the throats, other times bite like a vampire. Since you said there are no mutilations, look for punctures on the neck area. Still you mentioned a specific age group, so unless the predator is finding them an easy prey I doubt that any predator would be so selective.Mind you minks are not the only predator that can kill without obvious evidence. Poisonous snakes can bite out of defense if the chickens are attacking them. Since you have them in the barn, such might be another possibility. Ours used to attack snakes and eat them. Remember a Chicken is a carnivorous as well as a herbivorous.

I am not much on round worms and other parasites.

In my last mention of another possibility, you mentioned your feed. Such could be molded or if you are buying planting corn, sorghum, Millet..... and such from a coop it may have insecticides on it as it is used during planting. If so, Find a feed mill, or buy the commercial feed for the birds.

Hope this helped in some way.
 
BobdBirddog, that was an incredibly helpful post filled with lots of extremely good information and ideas, so thank-you so very much. I also thought it was especially thoughtful that you mentioned for me to be careful and not mix ammonia and bleach- because while I happened to know that, an amazing number of people do not and the results are often deadly. Many of your theories had merit and I'm going to do further research both online and on my little (9 acre) hobby farm to expand on some things you mentioned. I, too, thought the dying opossum might just be a coincidence but if so it seems remarkable that in the midst of loosing 2-3 chickens a day I have the first non-automobile related dead opossum I've ever seen and it shows up only a few yards from where my chickens are dying. But who knows. It also blows my mind that I have not lost a single of chicken that is more than a year old, and not a single one of my 8 little 3-4 week old chicks which I'd have thought would be the most susceptible to almost any illness (or predator). They all live in the exact same space and drink the same water, so why all the dead ones are from the same age group of bizzare. That being said, my chickens seem to run in packs based on age group so it could be that that group is doing something different, collectively. WHO knows?

Anyway, for the benefit of all who have been kind enough to offer help and are following this thread with interest, I will soon have more information to share. The one chicken I thought was sick has now died, and while that's more bad news, the silver lining is that I now have a fresh, preserved chicken to send in for necropsy. I've already called our state's facility (Thanks again to poster Kathy for telling me such a facility exists and giving me the contact info). The man who answered the phone was incredibly helpful and polite (never know what you'll get with government-related people/bureaucrats). I've got all the instructions and forms I need and I will be sending the chicken to them tomorrow and they will get it Friday. He said they might have some preliminary info the same day but most results would take about a week, and if they feel certain tests are warranted they can take several weeks. Either way, I promise to come back here and let everyone know the results...I'll even post the printout if I can.

Thanks all.
 
Thanks all. The last chicken that died is now in route via fed ex to the necropsy lab. I'll let you know how it turns out. I've been doing my own research, which is course is very elementary, but I must say I have to wonder if it isn't Coccidia. For one thing, I read Opposums to do get it. I also learned that I have been doing a lot of things that apparently helps to spread Cocci. For example, when I feed my chickens I just throw the feed down on the floor of the barn, which undoubtedly has chicken poop so that may well have been what spread it. THe symptoms also match....lethargy, then loss of appitite, followed by them just sitting or standing around even if you approach them. All this fits. It also said to look for a fluid discharge around the body, and at least one of my dead ones had that, and others could have but it just dried up before I found them. The only thing that doesn't seem to match is that it says almost all chicken flocks have it and it usually isn't fatal, so I'm not sure why it would kill all mine. Oh well.....its kinds silly for me to be making amateur guesses when I should have some professional analysis within a few days. But curiousity is killing me. I'd welcome any guesses you all have about cocci.
 
Did you treat your birds for Coccidiosis with Corid(amprolium,targets 9 strains of cocci) or other product? Cocci is a parasitic infection of the intestinal tract and often kills very fast,birds of any age can have an overload/outbreak,birds are only immune to the strains they have had prior exposure to. Coccidiosis can be spread by bringing new birds into flock,wild birds,other animals carrying it in on their paws,our own hands/clothes/shoes,etc.it is basically spread by everything. Some symptoms are: runny/watery poop(may or may not contain blood,depends on which strain it is)fluffed feathers,lethargic,not eating/drinking properly.
 
Did you know cocci is breed specific? An opossum can't get the same cocci that chickens can get.


Correct. Chickens get certain types, turkeys get others, ducks, geese, peafowl, etc, dogs, cats, horses, pigs, goats, etc. they all get their own types. No two species get the same type.

-Kathy
 

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