Chocolate Orpingtons

[hoppy]

from what I have read, chocolate can be sexlinked and choc can be ?? something else. in the UK, they have a different kind then we have with the dun gene.
I also saw an interesting picture in grant brereton's genetics book that showed a bird that was being called chocolate but was actually a deep red geneticly (according to him). I could see how it could be called chocolate so you have to be careful and know the backround on the birds.
this might be where the chocolate from the blue and buff birds appears, maybe it's not really chocolate but like this deep red bird.

 

[RioLindoAz]

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Do you think that it would be wrong to distribute these as chocolate, as it doesn't carry the CHOC gene?


It's weird because in the reports of those who produced a Chocolate from a Buff and Blue Orp, the gene is also sex-linked.

 

[Drakegeorge]

Where do I find a Chocolate Orpington? I live in Lawson Missouri. Would love to raise them.

 

[RioLindoAz]

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That's what we'd like to know.

 

[pbjmaker]

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Try the UK. I don't believe anyone in the US currently have them, but if you google them using images you can find pictures from the UK.

 

[rockinpaints]

I have Orps (and some projects I am working on), would love to work on Chocolates as well if anyone has any suggestions on what to cross. I'm ok with the dun gene too (I raised horses for many years in dilutes, I can work with dun if some one has a dun chicken out there...

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[rockinpaints]

I forgot if someone does have a dun so similar please PM or email me in case I don't see it on this thread. Thanks!

 

[Braclin]

Oh I want some!

 

[knjinnm]

http://chocolateorpington.com/
This could be a scam.



http://chirpychicks.com/chocolate_orpingtons.htm


http://www.thepoultrysite.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12323


http://www.freewebs.com/breachdownpoultry/



http://poultrykeeper.com/orpington/the-orpington/the-chocolate-orpington.html

The Chocolate Orpington
Written by Tim Daniels
Thursday, 18 February 2010 00:00
chocolate-orpington-bantam-cockerel-matt-hansonThe Chocolate Orpington is a relatively new colour of Orpington and currently to my knowledge only exists in bantam size although I'm sure it won't be long before they are crossed into large fowl. The choc gene responsible for the chocolate colour was discovered by the late Dr. Clive Carefoot around 1993-1994. It is a rare Sex-Linked Recessive gene that is basically a dilution of black pigment. This means that out of a pair of genes, the female will be chocolate with just one copy of the gene but the male requires two copies of the choc gene to look chocolate. This also means that black males can look black, but be carrying the chocolate gene.

Chocolate Orpingtons are slow to feather up. This is thought to be a direct result of the choc gene. Black Orpingtons are slow at feathering up but Chocolate Orps are even slower. They lay a slightly tinted egg.

Chocolate Orpingtons breed true - but there are some breeding combinations that are worth noting:

* Chocolate Male X Chocolate Female = 100% Chocolate

* Black Male X Chocolate Female = 50% Black Males carrying Chocolate, 50% Black Females

* Chocolate Male X Black Female = 50% Black Males carrying Chocolate, 50% Chocolate Females

* Black Male carrying Chocolate X Chocolate Female = 25% Chocolate Males, 25% Black Males carrying Chocolate, 25% Chocolate Females, 25% Black Females

* Black Male carrying Chocolate X Black Female = 25% Black Males carrying Chocolate, 25% Black Males, 25% Chocolate Females, 25% Black Females.

Black males carrying the chocolate gene are called 'Split' cockerels.

 

[RioLindoAz]

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Thanks for the useful information!








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