Chocolate Serama Breeders - dun and blue can be included here as well

[smoothmule]

Henthymes,
Oh, that's a nice cockerel. Love the color too. What color hen(s) will you be using?

KeyWest Chick, breeding your hen to a black rooster won't give you any chocolates, the hens will be black and the cockerels will look black and carry chocolate but it's a start and it's where I'm at now too. Let us know what you get.

I have the first chick out of my hen Truffles, it's a yellow chick and may be by the cocopop rooster she was with when I picked her up. I'm hoping it's a cockerel. I'm looking for a very good black rooster or cockerel for Truffles now. If I don't find what I need by the time this chick is matured enough to breed, I can breed him back to her and get some chocolates as well as to the black hen, Bugsy, for some chocolates as well but they will be patterned. If I do find a black rooster, and this chick is a cockerel, he will be for sale or I'd trade him for something I can use in this project.

Cathy

 

[HenThymes]

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Thank you, I am going to start with a chocolate mottled and a solid black.

Both are small and rather typey. I hope he comes into "manhood" sometime later this spring or early summer, can't wait to see what I get.

 

[smoothmule]

If I understand right, chocolate doesn't have a lot of effect on red so I hand originally thought I'd try crossing to my cocopops but decided that probably wouldn't really show much. I thought I'd want to try to make Serama's the color of Midas's son but I don't think the cocopop is the way to go for that, the wheaten is probably the way to go. I want to work with the cocopop color for some dilutes like more Cocopops and Honey Mustard type colors.

I'm going to put my wheaten hen Cici in with Blu-T tomorrow since Truffles is busy setting and I know I'll get mottled chicks from this cross with a lot of white and the wheaten base plus possible blue wheaten mottleds. I'll be saving a few of the best pullets for crossing to a chocolate or split chocolate rooster later on. They're both nice, small Serama's so it's just a good cross anyway. That still leaves Pops with his matching hen and while Bugsy is setting and T-Roo has my little hen Dovey as a mate. She's my smallest, a small A and she never lays so it's just for the companionship. The 2 hens setting will be without the hassle of the roos bothering them while they are setting.

This all gives me time to re-organize outside pens for the 3 roosters with their mates for summer pens. I figure that this summer I'll be working on some youngsters that will be paired next spring. So, my project for chocolate is to continue to work on a solid chocolate project as well as chocolate wheatens and mottled and hoping to see what Blu-T may add to the color.

What plans do you all have for your Chocolate Serama's and how are you planning to get there? What are you all wanting? or needing for your projects?

 

[catwalk]

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Midas' son, Avagna (rhymes with lasagna) is buff with black. Not true buff, I'm sure, because the red is several different shades. He's in with a buff silkied. Midas has a daughter who is chocolate wheaten, and she's back in with her father. I have little hope of getting all chocolate from these birds, so I'm working on buff. I just got a black pullet, so maybe she'll help me out.

 

[smoothmule]

Do you have a photo of the chocolate wheaten hen? I haven't seen many buff Serama's. Does chocolate affect red then? or is buff not built on red of any sort?
Any pictures of chocolate wheaten on a rooster?

Thanks
Cathy

 

[catwalk]

Not true wheaten, but not really buff, either. She has dark brown ticking on her neck, and there is a faint pattern on her back. The chest isn't as light as it should be, and the neck isn't as dark, which is why I'm using her for buff. Far as I know, choc doesn't affect red pigment, jsut black. Which makes it ideal to use in buffs. Know how they usually have black in wings and tails, detracting from the appearance? Chocolate buffs will just have different shades of brown, lessening the difference in color.

 

[smoothmule]

Aww, gotcha. Makes sense. Are there genes that will dilute the red other than buff so you could have a more dilute buff/chocolate? Pumpkin maybe? of course that would just replace the chocolate chest color with red.

So, they aren't all buff, they are black tailed buff so it makes good sense and sounds like some nice color there. I like that hens color.

 

[catwalk]

This I believe is a chocolate wheaten. She has some really dark brown, so I don't know if it's really stippled/ mossy black, or if it's true chocolate.

This one seems to have a lot of crazy color genes, including chocolate.

I got them in a trade, so I don't know their breeding. The wheaten I can use, but "marbles" will probably get a new home.

 

[smoothmule]

Interesting, I like the darker tail and wing tips, definitely a nice light colored breast.....bred to a known chocolate rooster you should know pretty quick. Hope she is but either way, her color is neat. Marbles, what a cool name. Hope she gets a neat home.

 

[austinhart123]

posted some pics of my breeders and birds on page 1. i am offering some of my 2011 Chocolates for auction, (check the links below) for anybody enthusiastic about starting their own strain of chocolate serama!

https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=485981
https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=485987