CL IN GOAT! ????

[Shoemaker319]

I know this is a chicken page but any goat lovers out there.
A friend of mine’s goat had developed a lump over night. all of her animals are healthy, and have had their shots, wormer.
But what does this look like? CL? Or something else?

 

[oldhenlikesdogs]

It's possible it's CL. Is it by the lymph nodes or over the teeth? Could be a tooth abscess as well.

 

[cassie]

It could be CL, but the fact that it developed suddenly overnight makes me suspect that it isn't. Abscesses can be caused by any number of things and CL is only one of them. If it is CL, DON'T PANIC!!! There is a lot of hysterical alarmist nonsense out there about CL and much of it is put out by people who should know better. No matter what anybody, and I do mean ANYBODY, tells you, CL can be controlled and eradicated and you can prevent other goats in the herd from getting it. The most important thing to do is to never allow an abscess to burst out in the barns or corrals. CL is spread mostly by exposure to pus from a draining abscess.

I may not know everything there is to know about goats but I do know about CL. I first started raising goats in the late 60's and at time many herds, including mine, were infected with CL. I got rid of it and so did the other goat keepers I know. We didn't burn down the barns and corrals and we didn't isolate or cull infected animals to do so either. I would much rather deal with CL than either Johnes or CAE. If you need detailed instructions on how to safely lance and clean abscesses and how to control CL contact me. Just send me a PM. I know this protocol works because this is how we all got rid of CL once and for all, and it never, ever came back.

 

[MarciBee]

I would like instructions

 

[cassie]

I would like instructions

PM me your snail mail addy and I will send complete instructions to you. Meanwhile, do not panic. No matter what anybody tells you, including your vet, CL is not the knell of doom. It can be controlled and eradicated. I would much rather deal with CL than either CAE or Johnes, and I have dealt with them too.

 

[Reeganleigh]

It could be CL, but the fact that it developed suddenly overnight makes me suspect that it isn't. Abscesses can be caused by any number of things and CL is only one of them. If it is CL, DON'T PANIC!!! There is a lot of hysterical alarmist nonsense out there about CL and much of it is put out by people who should know better. No matter what anybody, and I do mean ANYBODY, tells you, CL can be controlled and eradicated and you can prevent other goats in the herd from getting it. The most important thing to do is to never allow an abscess to burst out in the barns or corrals. CL is spread mostly by exposure to pus from a draining abscess.

I may not know everything there is to know about goats but I do know about CL. I first started raising goats in the late 60's and at time many herds, including mine, were infected with CL. I got rid of it and so did the other goat keepers I know. We didn't burn down the barns and corrals and we didn't isolate or cull infected animals to do so either. I would much rather deal with CL than either Johnes or CAE. If you need detailed instructions on how to safely lance and clean abscesses and how to control CL contact me. Just send me a PM. I know this protocol works because this is how we all got rid of CL once and for all, and it never, ever came back.

Would love to hear about your protocol because we just had to say goodbye to our sweet girl who had CL bad and I’m worried about the rest of our herd

 

[cassie]

Would love to hear about your protocol because we just had to say goodbye to our sweet girl who had CL bad and I’m worried about the rest of our herd

If you will PM me your snail mail address I will send you a copy of the paper I wrote about CL. It is an outline of how I and a number of other goat raisers handled CL and how we got rid of it. It must have worked because the CL never came back. I am talking about multiple herds involving quite literally hundreds of goats all told. I am not talking about a few backyard breeders with three or four goats. No matter what anyone tells you, and I do mean anyone, it is not necessary to euthanize a goat that has CL. The exception is a goat that continually produces multiple abscesses one after the other with no end in sight. The other exception is a goat that gets CL abscesses inside the udder.

 

[Krissy Lincoln]

If you will PM me your snail mail address I will send you a copy of the paper I wrote about CL. It is an outline of how I and a number of other goat raisers handled CL and how we got rid of it. It must have worked because the CL never came back. I am talking about multiple herds involving quite literally hundreds of goats all told. I am not talking about a few backyard breeders with three or four goats. No matter what anyone tells you, and I do mean anyone, it is not necessary to euthanize a goat that has CL. The exception is a goat that continually produces multiple abscesses one after the other with no end in sight. The other exception is a goat that gets CL abscesses inside the udder.

Hi Cassie, I just stumbled across your thread here and I would love to know more about how you were able to get rid of CL with your goats. My herd has it I haven't tested everyone but there are a few that have had abscesses and they burst.

 

[cassie]

Send me your snail mail address and I will send you a copy of the paper. Meanwhile, the single most important thing you can do, and it is critical, is to make sure no abscesses rupture in the barns and corrals. Getting rid of CL is not difficult but it does take commitment. Just PM me your address. I will be looking for it.

 

[LameDR]

If you will PM me your snail mail address I will send you a copy of the paper I wrote about CL. It is an outline of how I and a number of other goat raisers handled CL and how we got rid of it. It must have worked because the CL never came back. I am talking about multiple herds involving quite literally hundreds of goats all told. I am not talking about a few backyard breeders with three or four goats. No matter what anyone tells you, and I do mean anyone, it is not necessary to euthanize a goat that has CL. The exception is a goat that continually produces multiple abscesses one after the other with no end in sight. The other exception is a goat that gets CL abscesses inside the udder.

Hi cassie I am not sure how to pm but I would like instructions on eradicating cl in a herd please!