Clavamox source!

[casportpony]

Based on what I gave my 3kg hen, a five pound chicken given the 62.5 mg/ml suspension would get 3 ml twice a day. How large is the bird you want to treat? Might be more cost effective to buy the pills instead.

-Kathy

 

[casportpony]

From http://avianmedicine.net/content/uploads/2013/03/18.pdf


http://avianmedicine.net/content/uploads/2013/03/09_therapeutic_agents.pdf

-Kathy

 

[casportpony]

If any of you ever you find yourself stuck looking for doses or medical issues, try googling "avian medicine" and the name of the drug or disease. For just drugs, also google pigeon formulary and search through those.

Both of these links are very helpful:

• http://avianmedicine.net/content/uploads/2013/03/18.pdf
• http://avianmedicine.net/content/uploads/2013/03/09_therapeutic_agents.pdf

 

[Garden Peas]

It makes it broader-spectrum. Ampicillin has more resistance than the combination in Clavamox. Clavulanic acid makes the combo less likely to encounter resistant bacteria. It does not taste good, and it makes a lot of animals and people sick to their stomach. It should be taken/given with food. Even then, in dogs and cats, it still causes about 10% to puke. If they puke just once, we usually leave them on it. If they puke twice, then we take them off and use something else.

I've never used it in chickens, but guess there is no reason why not. Chickens won't puke, but the nausea could put them off their feed. I would use the same withdrawal time as ampicillin, which is no doubt listed somewhere (I have it bookmarked, but my list is so long I'd have to hunt for it). I think a week sounds right, though.

FWIW, I think this is the same combo as Augmentin -- Amoxicillin plus Clavulanate -- used in people to treat a variety of infections. My kids have taken enough of it to fill a wading pool over the years -- often prescribed for ear infections, where it has broader penetration and is more able to overcome resistant bacteria. My kiddos also had it for protracted bouts of tonsillitis.

It is also really hard on the stomach and very efficiently kills off intestinal flora, so probiotics for people are very helpful during and afterwards. Probably would help poultry too -- there's just not a lot of gut flora left after a round of Augmentin, particularly if you end up on it for a month, as my kids sometimes did.

 

[casportpony]

FWIW, I think this is the same combo as Augmentin -- Amoxicillin plus Clavulanate -- used in people to treat a variety of infections. My kids have taken enough of it to fill a wading pool over the years -- often prescribed for ear infections, where it has broader penetration and is more able to overcome resistant bacteria. My kiddos also had it for protracted bouts of tonsillitis.

It is also really hard on the stomach and very efficiently kills off intestinal flora, so probiotics for people are very helpful during and afterwards. Probably would help poultry too -- there's just not a lot of gut flora left after a round of Augmentin, particularly if you end up on it for a month, as my kids sometimes did.

Used up all of my Clavamox, so found some generic Augementin 875's that I can use to make my own suspension with. Don't think it mixes well in water, so I bought some ORA-Plus and ORA-Sweet. Comes in handy being able to compound your own drugs.

-Kathy

 

[CleoneCluck]

May i ask what symptoms / problem were you treating the hen for with the Clavamox and what were the results?

 

[casportpony]

May i ask what symptoms / problem were you treating the hen for with the Clavamox and what were the results?

Have used it for digestive tract infections and breast blister in a rooster. Each time the bird recovered.

-Kathy

 

[casportpony]

This is the breast blister one:
https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/1096276/bumble-breast-breast-blister-graphic-pictures

-Kathy

 

[HenriettaPlume]

I just started my hen on clavamox yesterday to treat an infection preventing her from forming egg shells. She's on 375 mg two times daily. It's actually two pills, and a real pain to give to her. Tonight, I finally wrapped her in a towel, and that helped.

I'm curious about the longevity of the medicine. I am allergic to amoxycillin. My hope is that eventually the medicine will work out of the chicken? She's a French Black Copper Marans, and I'm looking forward to her eggs returning,

 

[paneubert]

I just started my hen on clavamox yesterday to treat an infection preventing her from forming egg shells. She's on 375 mg two times daily. It's actually two pills, and a real pain to give to her. Tonight, I finally wrapped her in a towel, and that helped.

I'm curious about the longevity of the medicine. I am allergic to amoxycillin. My hope is that eventually the medicine will work out of the chicken? She's a French Black Copper Marans, and I'm looking forward to her eggs returning,

The stats for dogs and calves show the peak concentration is around an hour after oral dosing. So it seems to peak fast. No data on poultry I could find, and no comment about how fast the concentration decreases after peaking. It could be a fast peak and a slow ride down back to zero.

I have seen a quote saying "Amoxicillin and clavulanate diffuse into most body tissues and fluids" and "Approximately 50% to 70% of the amoxicillin and approximately 25% to 40% of the clavulanic acid are excreted unchanged in urine during the first 6 hours after administration".

So you could infer that 50% to 70% of the dose will be peed out and not end up in your eggs. And that is just within a 6 hour period. I am not going to mess around with suggesting how long you wait to try an egg....especially since you are allergic. But it seems that the drug is excreted pretty quick.....just saying.......