Coccidia help

[casportpony]

Quote: Albon (sulfadimethoxine) is preferred in some cases, and I think some vets will suggest giving Albon and Corid at the same time.

Sulfadimethoxine is also know as:

• Di-Methox
• SulfaMed G

-Kathy

 

[Isaac 0]

Albon (sulfadimethoxine) is preferred in some cases, and I think some vets will suggest giving Albon and Corid at the same time.

Sulfadimethoxine is also know as:

• Di-Methox
• SulfaMed G

-Kathy

Alright,Thanks

 

[casportpony]

@KsKingBee , can you comment on you experience treating with Corid, SulfaMed G, and SMZ? I think you said that you saw the best results when using SulfaMed G?

-Kathy

 

[SunHwaKwon]

The only reason I suggested Corid is because it is OTC. I have Di-Methox on hand (and hopefully won't have to use it) but in that situation I would be inclined to pick up Corid because weighing each of my 40+ birds that vary from very large to very tiny bantams would be pretty hard (if I could even get them to stay on a scale long enough to weigh them and also not end up covered in scratches lol).

Of course, if you plan on selling eggs and want to be able to legally continue doing so (honestly), then Corid would be the option to choose.

 

[casportpony]

The only reason I suggested Corid is because it is OTC. I have Di-Methox on hand (and hopefully won't have to use it) but in that situation I would be inclined to pick up Corid because weighing each of my 40+ birds that vary from very large to very tiny bantams would be pretty hard (if I could even get them to stay on a scale long enough to weigh them and also not end up covered in scratches lol). 

Of course, if you plan on selling eggs and want to be able to legally continue doing so (honestly), then Corid would be the option to choose.

Are sulfa drugs "banned" for use in laying hens?

-Kathy

 

[SunHwaKwon]

Are sulfa drugs "banned" for use in laying hens?

-Kathy

https://vet.osu.edu/sites/vet.osu.e...ng the treatment of backyard poultry 2015.pdf

This is from 2015 but I do know the sulfa part still stands. I have not looked into the others (have not had reason to). At the time of publication, it was not approved for laying hens in any country (unlike some other drugs on the list).

 

[casportpony]

Are sulfa drugs "banned" for use in laying hens?


-Kathy

https://vet.osu.edu/sites/vet.osu.e...ng the treatment of backyard poultry 2015.pdf

This is from 2015 but I do know the sulfa part still stands. I have not looked into the others (have not had reason to). At the time of publication, it was not approved for laying hens in any country (unlike some other drugs on the list).

Not approved for laying hens doesn't mean that you cannot use it in laying hens... One just needs to allow an appropriate withdrawal time.

 

[SunHwaKwon]

Not approved for laying hens doesn't mean that you cannot use it in laying hens... One just needs to allow an appropriate withdrawal time.

Yes, for your own consumption. Of course, there is no "appropriate withdrawal time" since it is not approved - you will just be guessing since there is nothing published (though it does seem 13 studies have been done on this so you could read them and make an educated guess).

AFAIK, legally they cannot be sold.

 

[KsKingBee]

@KsKingBee , can you comment on you experience treating with Corid, SulfaMed G, and SMZ? I think you said that you saw the best results when using SulfaMed G?

-Kathy

My experiences are for/from peafowl but some of it will apply to chickens. We found that adding Corid to water, in our case very hard water, would negate most of the benefits of the drug. The medication adheres to the minerals in the water and made it useless for us. We use what was called SulfaMed-G which was sulfadimethoxine with exceptional results. When I ran out I bought SZM not realizing it is a different drug, sulfamethazine, which ending up not being very effective at all. My vet orders for us a product from Vet One which is sulfadimethoxine in a 107gm pack and is dosed at two gm per gallon.





Also of interest is a link to a study my vet sent me;

http://www.scienceinternational.com/fulltext/?doi=sciintl.2013.261.265

 

[casportpony]

Quote:
Below is something from a FB page called Chicken Vet Corner and was written by a vet, though she's a horse vet, not an avian vet.
Quote:

Not Approved (can only be used by veterinary prescription even when availabe OTC, consult your veterinarian for withdrawal times appropriate to your specific situation)
Ivermectin (any dose) -8 week withdrawal
Piperazine (Wazine) (label dose) -17day withdrawal
Oxytetracycline in water (800mg label dose) -14days for personal consumption, 8 weeks for sold eggs or known sensitivities
Tetracycline in water (Duramycin 10) (label dose) -14 days, 8 weeks for sold eggs or known sensitivities
Sulfamethazine (Sulmet) (full label dose) -21 days
Sulfadimethoxine (Albon) (label dose) -21 days
Tylosin injectable (Tylan) -8 weeks due to lack of studies
Tylosin orally -14 days at treatment dose (no withdrawal at approved feed additive dose)
Levamisole (Prohibit) -21days
Albendazole (Valbazen) -14days
Fenbendazole (Safe Guard) (10mg/kg x3 days) -17days
Pyrantel -8weeks due to lack of any studies showing elimination times in eggs


All pesticides not specifically labeled. Pesticides are not allowed to be used extra label


STRICTLY PROHIBITED -ILLEGAL TO USE lifetime withdrawal
Fluoroquinolones (Baytril, Cipro, etc)
Metronidazole (Flagyl) and other drugs in this family (Nitroimidazoles)
Chloramphenicol
Clenbuterol (ventipulmin)
Diethylsilbesterol (DES)
Glycopeptides (vancomycin,etc)
Nitrofurans (Furazone, etc)
Cephalosporins (excede, naxcel, etc)
Antivirals