Coccidiosis and vitamins/antibiotics.

[Wickedchicken6]

Stargazing is most commonly a vitamin E deficiency. But it can also have an underlying genetic component, like the bird might not be able to efficiently absorb vitamin E, and the coccidia (or other illness) makes it even worse.

It is? I thought Vit E deficiency showed up more as muscle dystrophy/nervous system type issues. With scarring from coccidiosis I imagine a young bird could be deficient in Vitamin E too.

I haven't dealt with "star gazing" per say with a chicken but I have with a couple of lambs. At that point it's usually a life or death situation and a couple of hours is all a person has to give an injection of thiamin before the lamb succumbs and dies.

 

[Kiki]

Does the above mean that the manner in which Amprolium works...it doesn't matter whether poultry vitamins are given since it inhibits absorption and blocks the phosphorylation? I DO NOT THINK SO.


Who writes on the DSM website?
I need to check that one out, I've never come across it before.[/QUOTE]

 

[Kiki]

It is? I thought Vit E deficiency showed up more as muscle dystrophy/nervous system type issues. With scarring from coccidiosis I imagine a young bird could be deficient in Vitamin E too.

I haven't dealt with "star gazing" per say with a chicken but I have with a couple of lambs. At that point it's usually a life or death situation and a couple of hours is all a person has to give an injection of thiamin before the lamb succumbs and dies.

Vit E and Selenium.
The most common cases I have seen with wry neck are usually with polish and silkie breeds.

 

[Wickedchicken6]

Kiki, just letting you know your answer in the quote. Post 12

 

[Kiki]

Kiki, just letting you know your answer in the quote. Post 12

I fixed it.
I don't know what I did.

 

[Wickedchicken6]

Vit E and Selenium.
The most common cases I have seen with wry neck are usually with polish and silkie breeds.

I say yes and no...there are other key vitamins in there that can affect the whole picture. Well, all of them actually... but choline, magnesium, riboflavin...can also be suspect in the nervous system/neurological aspects.

http://www.merckvetmanual.com/poult...ement-poultry/vitamin-deficiencies-in-poultry

 

[Kiki]

I say yes and no...there are other key vitamins in there that can affect the whole picture. Well, all of them actually... but choline, magnesium, riboflavin...can also be suspect in the nervous system/neurological aspects.

http://www.merckvetmanual.com/poult...ement-poultry/vitamin-deficiencies-in-poultry

I agree to a point.
I think a good multivitamin is great..but for specifically wry neck I have see cases "fixed" with only added vitamins E and selenium.

 

[Kiki]

I've not once run across someone saying to not use antibiotics with Corid.
Where did you see/read this?

 

[Wickedchicken6]

I agree to a point.
I think a good multivitamin is great..but for specifically wry neck I have see cases "fixed" with only added vitamins E and selenium.

I've had a line of chickens (Silkie crosses) with wry neck and I kept the birds specifically to see how they would grow up and if they'd ever suffer from it again. I still have them. They annoy me so because I have to be so careful not to breed them.
I think a few may have been extra sneaky.

 

[ronott1]

A discussion on using vitamins and antibiotics with coccidiosis treatments.

One reason that I have read about is the fragility of chickens. They often do not survive anesthesia for example. Because of this, combining treatments will often put them over the edge. The recommendation is to finish one course of treatment before moving to another. IF the corid does not work, wait until it is stopped to try anti biotics for example.