Coccidiosis and vitamins/antibiotics.

[Wickedchicken6]

I've not one run across someone saying to not use antibiotics with Corid.
Where did you see/read this?

I thought I had. Fairly lately.
I could be wrong.

 

[Kiki]

I've had a line of chickens (Silkie crosses) with wry neck and I kept the birds specifically to see how they would grow up and if they'd ever suffer from it again. I still have them. They annoy me so because I have to be so careful not to breed them.
I think a few may have been extra sneaky.

Did you give them something to "fix" the wry neck the first time and have they had it happen to them again?

Did the silkies come from your own stock?
If so did you feed the parent stock extra vitamins and minerals for a while before hatching the eggs?

 

[ronott1]

I thought I had. Fairly lately.
I could be wrong.

There is a different treatment for cocci that uses an antibiotic

 

[ronott1]

Did you give them something to "fix" the wry neck the first time and have they had it happen to them again?

Did the silkies come from your own stock?
If so did you feed the parent stock extra vitamins and minerals for a while before hatching the eggs?

In some cases, chicks will recover from wry neck with good starter because they get the nutrition from it. The problem is making sure that they can eat it

 

[Wickedchicken6]

One reason that I have read about is the fragility of chickens. They often do not survive anesthesia for example. Because of this, combining treatments will often put them over the edge. The recommendation is to finish one course of treatment before moving to another. IF the corid does not work, wait until it is stopped to try anti biotics for example.

I'm sorry Ron. I didn't see your post until after I posted.

 

[Kiki]

There is a different treatment for cocci that uses an antibiotic

I think what Wicked is meaning is if a chicken has been diagnosed with a respiratory infection and Coccidiosis at the same time...Should she treat the Coccidiosis first with Corid and wait until the Corid treatment is finished before starting the antibiotic.

Or is it ok to use both the Coird and antibiotics at the same time to treat both things at once.

 

[ronott1]

I think what Wicked is meaning is if a chicken has been diagnosed with a respiratory infection and Coccidiosis at the same time...Should she treat the Coccidiosis first with Corid and wait until the Corid treatment is finished before starting the antibiotic.

Or is it ok to use both the Coird and antibiotics at the same time to treat both things at once.

Makes sense

Cocci kills them very quickly when they are chicks. If chicks have both, treat for cocci first and then respiratory. Older pullets and hens, treat respiratory first since cocci rarely kills older birds

It is not a good idea to treat with multiple drugs at one time--even one as safe as corid since corid is a vitamin blocker

 

[Wickedchicken6]

Did you give them something to "fix" the wry neck the first time and have they had it happen to them again?

Did the silkies come from your own stock?
If so did you feed the parent stock extra vitamins and minerals for a while before hatching the eggs?

Ron and I had a discussion about these birds a couple of years ago...

Kiki, you could be in interrogation. (That's meant as a compliment)

No, the Silkies did not come from my stock. They are a buff Silkie x with a straight comb variety chicken who have more aggressive tendencies than my purebred Silkies.

The problem first showed up in them when they were chicks a bit spacey. It showed as wry neck that fall in the roosters. I saw one of the pullets look spacy one day.

I treated the wry neck with chick vitamins when they first showed signs. Poulte-vite to be exact. I treated them with the same vitamins when they showed major signs of it that fall. I had to put one rooster down. I saved the rest. They started getting grain (millet, wheat) when they were almost a year and they've been fed that since.

They grew up with other chicks that showed no deficiency and were fed the same. I considered it a genetic fault with failure to utilize feed properly. I think I still do, I'm not 100% sure what to think. The hens are my brooders. The roosters are a major pain in the butt. They are the some of the toughest chickens I have.

 

[ronott1]

Ron and I had a discussion about these birds a couple of years ago...

Kiki, you could be in interrogation. (That's meant as a compliment)

No, the Silkies did not come from my stock. They are a buff Silkie x with a straight comb variety chicken who have more aggressive tendencies than my purebred Silkies.

The problem first showed up in them when they were chicks a bit spacey. It showed as wry neck that fall in the roosters. I saw one of the pullets look spacy one day.

I treated the wry neck with chick vitamins when they first showed signs. Poulte-vite to be exact. I treated them with the same vitamins when they showed major signs of it that fall. I had to put one rooster down. I saved the rest. They started getting grain (millet, wheat) when they were almost a year and they've been fed that since.

They grew up with other chicks that showed no deficiency and were fed the same. I considered it a genetic fault with failure to utilize feed properly. I think I still do, I'm not 100% sure what to think. The hens are my brooders. The roosters are a major pain in the butt. They are the some of the toughest chickens I have.

 

[Wickedchicken6]

Makes sense

Cocci kills them very quickly when they are chicks. If chicks have both, treat for cocci first and then respiratory. Older pullets and hens, treat respiratory first since cocci rarely kills older birds

It is not a good idea to treat with multiple drugs at one time--even one as safe as corid since corid is a vitamin blocker

Kiki was correct. That is what I was thinking. So you've read that they shouldn't be given together? I was surprised when I came across the site this morning that mentioned vitamins, antibiotics and other biologicals could be given "with" Amprolium. I wanted to know what everyone thought.