Coccidiosis

[ten chicks]

So according to the above info:

.024% liquid dose is 2 teaspoons
.024% powder dose is 1 teaspoon

.012% liquid dose is 1 teaspoon
.012% powder dose is 1/2 teaspoon

So if this is true, why do people recommend 1/2 teaspoon of the powder and 2 teaspoons of the liquid? What am I missing?

-Kathy

The only thing i can figure is the 1/2 tsp is the dose most feel comfortable with,but it can be increased to 1 tsp. When you think about it,9.6% is almost 1/2 of 20% so in reality the dosage information for 20% should be 1/2 the dose for the 9.6% liquid. The info i use comes from drug websites,some American and some Canadian,plus i use some info. from books i have read at my vet's(he lets' me look through his medical books). I will post some of the sites,i have cross referenced this info and it all comes up the same.

dailymed.nlm.nih.gov
Once on site click on animal drugs,type amprol you want amprol 128 - powder, for 9.6% type amprolium,then look at info for amprolium (Huvepharma,Inc)

www.drugs.com/vet/amprol-9-6-oral-solution.html

 

[Fred's Hens]

Appreciate the kind words. Coccidiosis is everywhere and cannot be avoided. The longer you have flocks the more immunity they seem to attain to what's on your property. That's not scientific, just what appears to be the case. The broody hens seem to pass a lot of immunity on to the chicks as well. Those birds that survive seem to build a strong immunity and the dangers seem to pass as the chicks mature. We hatched some valuable birds out of shipped in eggs. Was their coming from afar to our property a factor? Don't know. Since chicks hatched from our birds did not experience any signs of the outbreak, so just from observation evidence, I'd say it does make a difference.

But whenever a new strain pops up, there may not be great flock immunity. That is a risk, in my book. Or, if one of the 9 different strains morphs, that too is a risk. Those issues were in a Ag University paper I read. All amprolium does is prevent the cooci from overwhelming the chick. That chick will grow in its immunity eventually.

One uses these outbreaks to review their husbandry processes, their brooder cleanliness and all the rest. That's a healthy thing to review once in awhile. But when a severe outbreak is upon you, the Corid is a life saver. If you don't have it on hand, you may well lose some chicks while you go and secure some. I'll not let that happen ever again.

 

[mithious]

Appreciate the kind words. Coccidiosis is everywhere and cannot be avoided. The longer you have flocks the more immunity they seem to attain to what's on your property. That's not scientific, just what appears to be the case. The broody hens seem to pass a lot of immunity on to the chicks as well. Those birds that survive seem to build a strong immunity and the dangers seem to pass as the chicks mature. We hatched some valuable birds out of shipped in eggs. Was their coming from afar to our property a factor? Don't know. Since chicks hatched from our birds did not experience any signs of the outbreak, so just from observation evidence, I'd say it does make a difference.

But whenever a new strain pops up, there may not be great flock immunity. That is a risk, in my book. Or, if one of the 9 different strains morphs, that too is a risk. Those issues were in a Ag University paper I read. All amprolium does is prevent the cooci from overwhelming the chick. That chick will grow in its immunity eventually.

One uses these outbreaks to review their husbandry processes, their brooder cleanliness and all the rest. That's a healthy thing to review once in awhile. But when a severe outbreak is upon you, the Corid is a life saver. If you don't have it on hand, you may well lose some chicks while you go and secure some. I'll not let that happen ever again.

I agree 100% I will ALWAYS have it in my bird med kit. I have some very valuable birds coming in the spring so the above info is VERY valuable to me. I have started a notebook on these hatchery chicks, and have more for the ones in the spring. I have two lots I am on waiting lists for, the Barred Plymouth Rocks from Jwhip on here 10 count, and 6 count of Dominiques from a BYC member, right here in NH. Both are Heritage lines. I can not afford, with so few chicks next spring to start with, to lose them over cocci, so another HUGE thanks for that info. I am ever learning, researching, and reading, I feel I can never ever learn everything, not matter how much animal husbandry I have!!!

I have this all written in the notebook too!!!

This mush idea, has me rethinking fermenting...still on the fence, but not ruling it out either!

 

[casportpony]

Ditto on Corid in the medicine kit, one can never be too prepared. Lol, my med kit scares me sometimes, way too many drugs in it.

-Kathy

 

[mithious]

Ditto on Corid in the medicine kit, one can never be too prepared. Lol, my med kit scares me sometimes, way too many drugs in it.

-Kathy

Te he he, mines getting that way too!!! Glad I am learning all the new stuff on the cheap hatchery birds and not the heritage ones though!!! these birds HAVE wiggled their way into my heart though

They are so loving and I am their jungle gym, seems like. I am a walking roost, when in the coop

 

[casportpony]

Another must have for me is a digital kitchen scale, one that weighs in grams and ounces, 'cause the math is sooooo much easier for me in metric, lol. It's been my experience that all chicks should make daily weight gains, so if you weigh them as soon as you notice a problem, you'll be able to tell very quickly if your treatment plan is working or not.

- Kathy

 

[casportpony]

Here is that Corid info from the Corid website.




Edited to add source:
http://www.corid.com/SiteCollectionDocuments/CORID Slim Jim-All.pdf

 

[ten chicks]

Here is that Corid info from the Corid website.




Edited to add source:
http://www.corid.com/SiteCollectionDocuments/CORID Slim Jim-All.pdf

Strange,they have the wrong info for 1 oz to Tablespoons,1 oz = 2 Tablespoons not 31/2. I never use Corid brand name for information,i only use the Amprol information dosage.

 

[Pams chicks]

Should treatment be done for preventative measures? Mine are 5 months old, just starting to lay and reading this is scaring me!

 

[mithious]

Another must have for me is a digital kitchen scale, one that weighs in grams and ounces, 'cause the math is sooooo much easier for me in metric, lol. It's been my experience that all chicks should make daily weight gains, so if you weigh them as soon as you notice a problem, you'll be able to tell very quickly if your treatment plan is working or not.

- Kathy

I know, I need one, but saw some breeders, with a scale, that hung on the fence, and they just picked up the birds, and hung them upside down and weighed them. Now they of course HAD to have handled these birds a ton, as they could hold them any way they wanted and the birds didn't mind in the least...no stress, not even moving, just hangin out, literally at times...I would have to save for a long time to do a digital...I think I will just pick up one like they had and I already work with the birds and all but one, has no problem with me handling them...not sure why that one is being so difficult, am working on winning her over though. She does come running when I go in the coop, well until everyone got sick with cocci.

An update. Went back to get the wet medicated feed I gave them( in their baby feeder ) and it looked like they had licked it clean! All have full crops with the medicated water in the feed, and saw my big pullet, the one that doesn't like to be held, poo a half normal, half runny poo, so in that short a time, the meds are already working. All that beak dipping, for two days and fighting with the big girl, and one medicated feed session and that seems to have helped, plus going up to 1 tsp per gallon I am sure helped also!