Cochin Thread!!!

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Ughhhh...why do I always get walked all over??? The hens are lovely at least...

Could you post a couple of pics of the hens, please. Are they also brown? To be honest, my first thought about the roo was that he's not even a purebred Cochin - and not just because of the color. I would not use the roo as a breeder, either.

I'm not sure why anyone would tell you he's SQ - but then again everyone has their own definition of SQ. If you bought them as pets - please do enjoy them as pets. If you are looking to show your birds, or buy SQ stock, your first purchase should be a copy of either the APA (large Fowl) or ABA (Bantam) Standard of Perfection. It should also be your first purchase if you are looking to breed your birds, or buy breeder stock.

I'm certainly not now
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I would never take advantage of anyone...the hens are a dark blue on their head and neck and a lighter blue below and underneath. There is only one hen who has a blue tint...the other 7 are very nice. I guess I have to start over again!!! I don't have a pic of the hens, but I can post one...this same person that sold me the Cochins sold me chicks with cocci too...lovely experience. Can you suggest a good Cochin breeder? I adore the breed and would love to breed to meet the standards.
 
I have some very nice blue cochins that are about 2 1/2 mo old I think and I'll have some more later on. They are from SQ stock, but I can't guarantee that they will be winners yet, they are just too young. They do look really nice. I got my breeding stock from Mandy (Cochin Coop) and she's pretty picky. You can always ask her what she thinks of them and if she'll evaluate them for you.

Did we ever get anywhere with the breeder's directory?

So sorry for your bad experience. I just want to let you know that as a general rule, this kind of thing doesn't happen when you deal with folks who show consistently. They have too much to loose by pulling that kind of a stunt. I've had wonderful experiences with almost everyone that I've dealt with (mostly). Maybe a bump in the road, but nothing I couldn't live with easily.
How light are your hens? That can also be a problem. I love the dark-headed, lighter bodied look, but it doesn't show well. The judges are looking for a darker blue (Navy) with good lacing. The truth of it is, good blues are hard to breed, but I think they're worth it! I love mine
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Hi Everybody, I was wondering if anybody would help me with a question????
I think I read the Standards of perfection book correctly, We have LF Black Cochins, Are they suppose to have black to willow colored legs and yellow feet soles? Or are they to have all yellow???
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Have 3 white cochins that came in an assortment...am thinking of keeping them as they're nice birds. Not sure from a show standpoint or if I'll ever go that way with them...but if I were to hatch eggs would it be advised to stick to just white?
 
No problem. I jumped on the Giant Cochin reference because I see people use that as a marketing ploy. If you truly have Large Fowl Cochins that meet the Standard, then they are massive and don't need an extra adjective to describe them.

If you have the correct size on your Cochins, it should be a bit of a wrestling match when you are handling them. Certainly, they are fairly docile, but their overall size, bone structure and feather mass should make them quite a handful, especially a male. All three Asiatic breeds, Cochins, Brahmas and Langshans represent some of the largest birds in the poultry fancy.

Lamancha Goats. Neat breed.

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There is no such thing as a Giant Cochin. Cochins come in Large Fowl and Bantams. Some of the large fowl strains are much larger than others. Typically hatchery quality Large Cochins are smaller and lack the body frame and feather mass that make a Large Cochin what they are supposed to be.

Cuckoo is not a recognized color pattern in Cochins. Barred is the recognized color pattern, although crisp barring in Cochins (large or bantam) is hard to achieve. Cuckoo refers to irregular barring as seen in Dominiques, and is a recognized color pattern in Europe.

I would agree that your Barred male looks more Cuckoo than barred, but if entered in a show the correct entry would be Barred Cochin. Barring is sex linked and dominate in that a Barred male bred to a Black female will produce Barred offspring. The males appear lighter because they carry two copies of the barring gene where the females carry one. A black male bred to a Barred female produces barred males and Black females. For proper examples if what the Barred pattern should look like on a chicken, refer to Barred Plymouth Rocks.
 
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Most likely he is pure blue but he is brassy which is a serious defect. This could be due to one of two reasons, he either genetically posesses the brassy gene or he is sun burned which causes the feathers to yellow or in the case of blues turn brownish/rusty colored. His type is suspect as well and the tail carriage is too high. In looking at the responses I would have to say that breeding good blues is very difficult. I have been breeding them for 10 years and some years you may never get a blue chick due to the genetic combinations and if you begin to get brassy males or rusty colored females you need to cull them from the flock. When using blacks to cross onto your blues try to find blacks that appear to have a darker laced breast feather and also make sure they have feathers that are dull black and not beetle green sheen. If you want the true example of what blue should be look up Blue Andalusians and that is what the color should be. The females should have a dark head (nearer to black) the hackle should be very dark laced with leaden blue in the center; the remainder of the body feathers, wings included should be leaden blue with a dark lacing around the entire web of the feather. The male should be similar in the hackle although there should be a good amount of sheen this same dark blue/black color should be over the wing bows, back and saddle, with the back and saddle having a narrow strip of leaden blue in center of the feather running nearly the entire length of the feather shaft. The body should be like the female, leaden blue with dark lacing. Very beautiful when right and if combined with excellent type can compete with any black, white or buff. Not too many good ones left out there, my flock is in rebuilding status with 4 chicks hatched this year. We'll have to see how they turn out.

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