Cockerel and chicks

[aart]

you would think especially the Amish (who I know nothing about)

Just now reading a book about how they are cluelessly romanticized and commercialized...I've always suspected, now it's confirmed.

 

[Brahma Chicken5000]

The Amish view dogs as livestock and that’s why they have no problem owning a puppy mill.

 

[EggSighted4Life]

The Amish view dogs as livestock and that’s why they have no problem owning a puppy mill.

I don't personally view my dogs as livestock. I would almost have to consider my kids livestock, since that is how dogs are treated in our home, like kids.

As much as I'm repulsed by the idea of eating a dog or cat (and a LOT of other things) ... I have decided that just because I was raised in the US where dogs and cats are somehow off the menu, that it isn't my place to judge what somebody else eats, assuming it doesn't suffer needlessly. As far as I'm concerned they could be humanely farmed and killed and be a viable option for some. Why we have shelters putting to death (my old city was 3000 animals per year, just ONE shelter) and tossing in the trash or incinerator a perfectly viable option for feeding other animals and even people (aside from possible disease aspect, but those are in hunted wildlife and farmed stuff as well), I don't understand. Don't let the vegan troll see this!

And I will try to reserve whatever judgement I do hold towards Amish stuff, noting that no matter how many stereotypes are often true that it rarely applies to all of who or whatever belongs to that particular group. In other words, I'm sure their are some among the Amish who don't believe puppy mills are OK. Hopefully education about such things will make it's way to them!

 

[aart]

Just now reading a book about how they are cluelessly romanticized and commercialized...I've always suspected, now it's confirmed.

The Amish view dogs as livestock and that’s why they have no problem owning a puppy mill.

There we go, another assumption.....Leading to....

As much as I'm repulsed by the idea of eating a dog or cat

....the eating of dogs.

Talk about thread drift.
This forum is more often like a game of 'telephone'...SMH.

 

[Brahma Chicken5000]

There we go, another assumption.....Leading to....

....the eating of dogs.

Talk about thread drift.
This forum is more often like a game of 'telephone'...SMH.

Here are 2 links.
http://www.thepuppymillproject.org/amish-puppy-mills/
http://abcnews.go.com/Business/story?id=7187712

 

[aart]

Here are 2 links.
http://www.thepuppymillproject.org/amish-puppy-mills/
http://abcnews.go.com/Business/story?id=7187712

You miss my point.

 

[Brahma Chicken5000]

You miss my point.

What is you’re point?

 

[chickens really]

There we go, another assumption.....Leading to....

....the eating of dogs.

Talk about thread drift.
This forum is more often like a game of 'telephone'...SMH.

Hit the nail on the head........Lol..Stay on topic people or all will break loose...

 

[Brahma Chicken5000]

Sorry OP for derailing your thread for a second there.

 

[microchick]

I highly recommend reading a book about the Amish written by the man who does the Amish Maffia TV program. It is very enlightening.

I live in an Amish community. No I am not Amish even though my maiden name is Pennsylvania Duetch in origin. They are like everyone else on this earth. There are good and bad in them the same as there are in all societies. But.....Yes, some look at dogs as being livestock and this is touched upon in the book I just mentioned. Same with chickens, ducks, geese, turkeys, sheep, goats, cattle and horses.

When we bought our farm and started walking the timber we found skeleton after skeleton ranging from young sheep and goats to cattle and even dog bones. Shortly after taking possession of our property, we noticed a big black pile of something back in our timber behind a pond. It was partially obscured by branches that had been piled around it. Closer inspection revealed a very dead angus steer. Our neighbor had asked us if we minded if he turned his cattle in our timber during a bad storm so they could take shelter in a raving and we told him no, go ahead. When we asked him why he had left a dead cow in our woods he said it had fallen through the ice on the pond and drowned and he didn't want us to feel bad.

Huh?

Needless to say we asked him to remove HIS dead steer from our property.

Most of the problem with the Amish lies with a lack of education and the reliance of tradition in their every days lives. This overflows into their lack of knowledge of animal husbandry and medicine. Got worms? Give 'em some garlic and vinegar. Still got worms? Give 'em some more. Dying from worms? Didn't give em enough garlic and vinegar.

No, I'm not being sarcastic. I witnessed this happening. The Amish around here graze their fields down to the ground where the highest worm load occurs. Our neighbor just found that out with his own pasture and has banned any further grazing there by our Amish neighbors. Don't get me wrong. I respect their dedication to their faith and community but they are basically functional illiterates when it comes to science and medicine.

So on the other hand that exposure to everything imaginable could give bred in resistance to chickens and other farm fowl. But, they could also be incubating some really nasty super bugs also if my flock is any indication.

Sorry to OP for hijacking the thread.

Back to our original topic of discussion.