color of this silkie? (sonoran!) more pics!**

[joe17]

Ohh yeah! I ask EVERY question dealing with any thing silkie to Amy Piehl! She answers em all too lol Its just that one out of 21. Its going to awesome watching this little guy grow! Im going to keep him so it doesnt matter. Just really curious about him! Here are more pics. I had to rename them.

 

[Sonoran Silkies]

It may end up a dark partidge. Add another photo in a couple of months

 

[joe17]

Will do! It JUST started turning this color. Its weird! Have you ever had this happen before? You think another color could have gotten into the breeding pen on accident? I wonder what two colors make this color. I cant wait for it to grow up! I will update every couple of weeks.

 

[Smoky73]

I have seen some weird stuff. I get silver gened whites out of my black pairs and I also get these partridge and greys on occasion, depending on who the parents are, but most of the time, I get some darn fine black birds! Amy has gotten a lot of birds from Premier, and that is the same line I have some of as well, so it is completely possible you got something that she has not seen herself. Does not happen often but there is always a chance depending on who you mate whom too and the DNA that is down the line. Some genetics can take 30 years to manifest in just the right pairs, as evidence in my Dutch bantams. Original breeder has been raising Dutch for 30 years and then suddenly got Wheaten pop up which was never seen in any of the birds in the USA till just the one year.

 

[joe17]

wow thats amazing how colors just randomly pop up! I want to see what this silkie is going to look like. I wonder if she will turn completely golden brown.

 

[destiny_56085]

Just getting home from work and on the computer now. This one baffles me too and this is why I asked him to bring it up on here for Suze. Absolutely no chance of crossed colors. Black on black mating only in there. 2 pigeon pens in between them and the rest so no chance of hanky panky through the wire. In the past if there has been any off coloration coming out of there its either silver or gold coming in late on the hackles of cockerels only. The ones I've seen were jet black til around 6-10 months even before a hint of that showed up.

My whites were producing some partridge chicks early this spring. I loaned out the 1 white cock to Vicky and no more partridge after that. His combination of genes on certain hens of mine must have been responsible. Those chicks were hatched with the chipmunk down and turned out to be some pretty decent looking partridge. I don't deal with that color so all are already in new homes. This new chick out of the blacks was hatched with black down... no striping at all. Could this be floating in my blacks as well?

 

[Sonoran Silkies]

A partial hypothesis: most silkies are e^b based, to get solid black or blue, alot of melanizers are needed, more so than if E based. e^b is generally the most recessive E-allele (e^Wh is more so under certain circumstances), so an E/e^b bird would take on the characteristics of E. You had (this is pure speculation) an E/e^b cock and E/e^b hen who produced and e^b/e^b chick. Since the parent birds were E, they did not need as many melanizers to be totally black or were het. for the melanizers, and the chick thus also inherited fewer melanizers. If it had inherited more melanizer or if it had inherited E, it would be black.

So, once its feathers are more dully developed, let's see what you have.

 

[cityslickers]

I have a dozen blacks from Amy in my grow out pen and 1 has slight gold in the feathers...Not as much as your little guy.

Looks to be a dark partridge though I have 2 partridge growing out with the same dark feathering.. Out of about 50 partridge chicks these are the first 2 that are dark..

 

[joe17]

A partial hypothesis: most silkies are e^b based, to get solid black or blue, alot of melanizers are needed, more so than if E based. e^b is generally the most recessive E-allele (e^Wh is more so under certain circumstances), so an E/e^b bird would take on the characteristics of E. You had (this is pure speculation) an E/e^b cock and E/e^b hen who produced and e^b/e^b chick. Since the parent birds were E, they did not need as many melanizers to be totally black or were het. for the melanizers, and the chick thus also inherited fewer melanizers. If it had inherited more melanizer or if it had inherited E, it would be black

I dont understand any of that! lol I am taking biology this year so hopefully I will understand some of it. How do you know all that? Did you take college genetics? wow your really smart!​

 

[cityslickers]

So I finally went out and got some pics of the 1 with some gold

Out of 12 chicks only 1 sports some gold in its feathering the rest look outstanding.
This lil black from Amy nice crest great toe spacing nice rich black.. I am soo loving them...