Color Questions

[chickengr]

mille fleur brahma, I don't know his origins. what should I mate to him in order to get mille fleur offspring (possibly good layer)?

 

[Cherie1n2]

If I cross an ameraucana rooster with a barred rock hen, would I get sex linked olive eggers?

 

[Winterwolfbane]

From my experience. Yes, you will get sex linked offspring. Males will have the barring gene (only one copy of it) and the females will not. They (males) will usually be black or dark colors with a white dot on the head at hatch. The females are usually black and won't have the spot on the tops of their heads. If I had a better idea what color your Americana rooster was. I could give you a better idea of possible feather colors to expect from the offspring?
The barring gene and silver/gold are sex linked. And can give you a pretty good idea what to expect in the F1 hybrid offspring as far as feather color too. Also the pea comb will be dominate. So all will have a pea comb as well, but carry the recessive for the single comb of the Barred Rock.

All crosses I ever did with Americana to other brown egg laying breeds. Produced olive colored eggs when their hybrid offspring laid. The coolest ones I got were from a mix of Welsummer and Americana. The Wels laid highly speckled eggs. And the hybrid offspring laid olive colored eggs with maroon speckles. We called them "dragon eggs". They were so unusual looking.

 

[Cherie1n2]

That's awesome to know about the speckles.. I'm trying to map out some possible outcomes for a few breeding projects I'm starting this year..thanks again

 

[Winterwolfbane]

Glad to help.
I did an experimental breeding with Olive eggers. Americana to Marans. Followed it for 5 years and 6 generations, back bred only to the Marans. Found out the pea comb is somehow connected with the blue egg gene. Once you loose the pea comb, you loose the green eggs. The eggs never got any darker because of the Marans genes either. It was a short experiment. But told me a lot. Just food for thought.
Keep notes and take photos. It really helps with the decision making process. In figuring out what to breed later to get whatever you want in your birds.

Those speckled olive eggs were just neat looking. I think in all reality, any breed or individual hen. That lays a speckled egg. Would probably pass that trait onto her daughters or at least some of them.

 

[Winterwolfbane]

Chickgr,
Try "Buff Brahmas". If you want to make Brahmas in this color? You will get some incompletes in some of the offspring. Back breed his daughters to him that are most like him. It's going to take several generations to get good Millie fleur. But with selective breeding and close culling you can make actual Millie fleur Brahma.

Oh, the incompletes will resemble something like a cross in color in both the buff Columbian and Millie. Look for birds that start to get the white dot on the feather tips or better yet some feathers that have the white dot and the black band below it. Trust me all incompletes ( sometimes also called "incorrect") look a mess. And you have to keep them until their adult feathers come in to know what you are looking at for sure. You want to look for the traits of the Millie fleur in the feathers and breed alike birds each generation that have the most of those traits.

If you don't for whatever reason get any that look like incompletes. As I have described. Still back breed his daughters to him. They carry half his genes and something in their offspring should turn up looking like him.

Good luck

 

[Cherie1n2]

Although I've persued nursing as a profession, my heart is in genetics.. I have a vision but still not the vocabulary to define it.. Nor the knowledge to obtain it. I hope to better develop my idea over the next few years..

Record keeping is a given!

 

[chickengr]

Chickgr,
Try "Buff Brahmas". If you want to make Brahmas in this color? You will get some incompletes in some of the offspring. Back breed his daughters to him that are most like him. It's going to take several generations to get good Millie fleur. But with selective breeding and close culling you can make actual Millie fleur Brahma.

Oh, the incompletes will resemble something like a cross in color in both the buff Columbian and Millie. Look for birds that start to get the white dot on the feather tips or better yet some feathers that have the white dot and the black band below it. Trust me all incompletes ( sometimes also called "incorrect") look a mess. And you have to keep them until their adult feathers come in to know what you are looking at for sure. You want to look for the traits of the Millie fleur in the feathers and breed alike birds each generation that have the most of those traits.

If you don't for whatever reason get any that look like incompletes. As I have described. Still back breed his daughters to him. They carry half his genes and something in their offspring should turn up looking like him.

Good luck

thank you!