Preston, so sad to hear about the ILT incident your breeder friend has had. I know nothing about it, is it one of the infections that remains on the property or on/in the structures, or does it disappear once the hosts (birds) are gone? I should learn about it I guess, I certainly hope I never have to deal with it, but you never know. I have read it is more common in Canada and that Canadians can't show their birds unless they have been vaccinated for it, but here I never even see the vaccine offered by the hatcheries, so always guessed it wasn't common in the US. That we share a border means to me it must be more common in the Northern states, but if it's in CO somewhere, I wonder how long before it's here everywhere, and maybe I need to research the vaccine. At this point I hatch so few chicks at one time it never made sense to keep vaccine on hand, but have thought many times about starting to vaccinate chicks hatched here against Marek's, not because I've seen it here but because I know others not too awfully far away have had birds die from it. Whenever I order chicks from a hatchery I have them vaccinated. I guess this weekend I'm doing more research.