Commotion at the coop. Wow!!

Hawks and protected species can be dealt with in many cases by jumping through the proper hoops...

http://www.fws.gov/permits/mbpermits/birdbasics.html

As authorized by the Migratory Bird Treaty Act, the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service issues permits to qualified applicants for the following types of activities: falconry, raptor propagation, scientific collecting, special purposes (rehabilitation, educational, migratory game bird propagation, and salvage), take of depredating birds, taxidermy, and waterfowl sale and disposal. Migratory bird permit policy is developed by the Division of Migratory Bird Management and the permits themselves are issued by the Regional Bird Permit Offices. The regulations governing migratory bird permits can be found in 50 CFR part 13 (General Permit Procedures) and 50 CFR part 21 (Migratory Bird Permits).

http://www.fws.gov/migratorybirds/intrnltr/mbta/mbtandx.html

Hawk, Asiatic Sparrow, Accipiter gularis
Broad-winged, Buteo platypterus
Cooper's, Accipiter cooperii
Ferruginous, Buteo regalis
Gray, Buteo nitidus
Harris', Parabuteo unicinctus
Hawaiian, Buteo solitarius
Red-shouldered, Buteo lineatus
Red-tailed, Buteo jamaicensis
Rough-legged, Buteo lagopus
Sharp-shinned, Accipiter striatus
Short-tailed, Buteo brachyurus
Swainson's, Buteo swainsoni
White-tailed, Buteo albicaudatus
Zone-tailed, Buteo albonotatus


Owl, Barn (=Barn-Owl, Common), Tyto alba
Barred, Strix varia
Boreal, Aegolius funereus
Burrowing, Speotyto (=Athene) cunicularia
Elf, Micrathene whitneyi
Flammulated, Otus flammeolus
Great Gray, Strix nebulosa
Great Horned, Bubo virginianus
Hawk (=Hawk-Owl, Northern), Surnia ulula
Long-eared, Asio otus
Northern Saw-whet, Aegolius acadicus
Short-eared, Asio flammeus
Snowy, Nyctea scandiaca
Spotted, Strix occidentalis

http://www.fws.gov/forms/3-200-13.pdf

No permit is required merely to scare or herd
depredating migratory birds other than endangered or threatened species and bald or golden eagles. You should apply for a
depredation permit only after non-lethal management proves unsuccessful. If a permit is issued, you will be expected to continue
to integrate non-lethal techniques when implementing any lethal measures.

Please provide the following information:
1. List the species of migratory birds causing the depredation problem and estimate the number of each involved.
2. Provide the exact location of the property or properties where the control activity would be conducted (State, county, and physical
address of the specific site).
3. Description of damage.
(a) Describe the specific migratory bird damage or injury you are experiencing.
(b) How long has it been occurring (e.g., the number of years)?
(c) What times or seasons of the year does it occur?
(d) Describe any human health and safety hazards involved.
(e) Provide details such as types of crops destroyed, human injuries sustained, property damage incurred, and health and safety
hazards created.
4. Describe the extent of the damage and estimate the economic loss suffered as a result, such as percentage of acres of crop and
dollar loss, cost to replace damaged property, or cost of injuries.
5. Describe the nonlethal measures you have taken to control or eliminate the problem, including how long (e.g., a week, month,
year(s)) and how often they have been conducted. List the techniques you have tried, such as harassment (e.g., horns,
pyrotechnics, propane cannons), habitat management (e.g., vegetative barriers, longer grass management, fencing), cultural
practices (e.g., crop selection and placement, management of pets and feeding schedules), or no feeding policies.
6. Proposed actions.
(a) What actions are you proposing to take to alleviate the problem (e.g., kill, eliminate nesting, trap and relocate)?
(b) Describe the method you propose (e.g., shoot; addle, oil, destroy eggs; trap and relocate; trap and donate birds to a food
processing center).
(c) If you propose to trap birds, describe the method that will be used and your (or your agent’s) experience with the method.
7. What long-term measures do you plan to take to eliminate the problem?
 
I guess very few posters know how simple (and i mean a couple of clicks) it is to do a search. Say, 'Hawks, shooting'. Oh look hear is a big thread at BYC, lets check it out. Two clicks later they have your IP address and are knocking on your front door.
If you want to shout if from the roof tops expect no sympathy if they do come calling.
"I was just protecting my flock" will NOT cut it.
 
Jeez people let's not bite eachothers heads off over this it was just a misunderstanding! smiles all round people.
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So I get these emails from 'civil rights' groups and yep one guy shot a couple of hawks and now wants people to come to his aide. I have canceled the emails. How many times does it have to be said? Yes it makes me cranky. It just seems like some people are internet bragging about it and it bothers the heck out of me. Are they looking for help? no. Are they asking for sympathy, not really.
Last time I will post that, because I think I might be feeding trolls.
 
He didn't actually say he shot the hawk and he was obviously scared of losing his chickens. When you put so much time and care into your birds no one wants to sit back and feed them to a predator. Ya'll need to put away your pitchforks
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Aww man! Angry mobs are fun though! Lol! I was mainly concerned about the legal issues our BYC buddy might face if the wrong people (or the "right people") found out about it
 
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Your right here it freaked me out seeing this giant bird trying to get at my birds. I don't let animals eat my livestock period. It really freaked out the flock. They spent the entire day hidden out of sight. They did all return to the coop. Thank-God.
I opened the coop up this morning they said no thanks. I don't know how you people deal with watching an animal eat your livestock right in front of your eyes. Do I over react yes I do. In my eyes I'm their protector. I didn't kill the bird but I doubt he will come back & thats a good thing.
 
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Aww man! Angry mobs are fun though! Lol! I was mainly concerned about the legal issues our BYC buddy might face if the wrong people (or the "right people") found out about it

x2 I think most were trying to keep the OP out of trouble...
 
Well, you bird lovers are mighty sweet to give us all the standard warning, chapter and verse, just to save us from the boogie bear. What would we do without you? A lot of us are man enough to handle our own business. We don't live on welfare, don't collect unemployment checks for two years, do very well taking care of our own place, and are still considered law abiding citizens. Honestly, your constant warning every time a hawk is mentioned, only shows what a state of fear you live in. And you expect us to live like you? That's nuts.

The OP just said he "shot", and said he'd leave it at that. You maybe read more into his statement than it was. Just let it rest a bit. Really no need to let your fear show so bright.

But I still love ya as a chicken owner.
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