Confused.......how can you afford to feed your chickens

i never buy bedding. I get free coffee chaff from a roaster for inside and I use pine needles outside, or sometimes wood shavings from my husband's wood working. I get free greens from our local produce guy who saves them for us.
 
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I have a customer who has an autistic child and when I first met her, she told me the horror stories about feeding her autistic child eggs, milk, veggies and meat from grocery stores. She said that she conducted a study on her child and bought veggies and meat from someone local who grew and raised their own veggies and meat and she saw a profound difference in her child's behavior. Her child was not bouncing off the wall or agitated when her child ate the veggies and meat from a local person. Since then, I have been providing her eggs and meat from my animals. She said that her child has made a remarkable change in behavior and she owes it all to NOT buying meat, eggs, veggies, milk, etc. from grocery stores. I forgot to mention that she has recently obtained a PhD in Nutrition, so she has been studying how hormones, etc. in food affects people.

Good luck with your chicks and selling and trading them and planting a bigger garden. You will definitely see a difference in your feed bill. Keep up the good work.

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Ya know, Fred, I was reading your message and thought to myself, "Now that's an awesome post! He answers everybody's questions clearly and didn't insult anyone." Then I got to the bottom of your message.

Do you think you could have possibly, just maybe, I dunno, left out the part where you insulted the intelligence of everyone on the forum?

Just sayin', your awesome info would have been much better received if you hadn't ended the message with a backhanded slap to the intelligence and conversational ability of the members of this forum.

You're right HHandbasket. So I wonder what does that say about him? He is a member of this forum format such as this in which this huge topic that proves difficult to discuss intelligently as well. I wonder why would be want to surround himself around forums such as this? I always thought that I was in good company in all of these forums on BYC. This is where I have learned the most about my animals, to include emergencies and illnesses where the information received from this format from my BYC friends have saved the lives of several of my animals. I am VERY grateful for these forum formats such as this. Just my 2 cents.

And now back to our regularly scheduled program.
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You quoted me correctly. "This is a huge topic that proves difficult to discuss intelligently in a forum format such as this. It involves economics/politics/science/sociology etc. " The emphasis is upon the format of this or any other forum, where comments come in bits and bites. It is the nature of forums. Yes, forum formats are indeed difficult places to take on such a broad and difficult subject.

That some saw that comment, not as it was, merely an objective stating of the difficulty of the format, but rather chose to see it as a "slap" at the members of the this forum, is unfortunate. I have attacked no one, yet I have now been the butt of several harsh posts, assuming my objective comment was somewhat directed at the intelligence of BYC posters. There was nothing in my comment that stated that.

Again, I apologize. There is nothing else to say, except to say this unfortunate response, sadly, proves the point rather well.. A format such as this is subject to misunderstandings and oft times results in hurt feelings, when absolutely none was ever intended.
 
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I raise just enough hens to supply my family with fresh eggs and I sell the surplus for $2.50/dozen. I did the math and determined that was the rate I would have to charge to cover the feed cost. So far it's working and the hens are paying their own way. That doesn't count the upfront costs involved with building coops and buying equipment, which I can never recoup, but I didn't start doing this to make money. In the spring, I'll raise some meat birds for 6 weeks and butcher them for my freezer. I figure those birds cost me about $6 each by the time I butcher them, but they are better than any chicken I can buy in the store. This all started as a 4H project for my kids, but I enjoyed it so much that I took it over after the fair season was over.

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I have a customer who has an autistic child and when I first met her, she told me the horror stories about feeding her autistic child eggs, milk, veggies and meat from grocery stores. She said that she conducted a study on her child and bought veggies and meat from someone local who grew and raised their own veggies and meat and she saw a profound difference in her child's behavior. Her child was not bouncing off the wall or agitated when her child ate the veggies and meat from a local person. Since then, I have been providing her eggs and meat from my animals. She said that her child has made a remarkable change in behavior and she owes it all to NOT buying meat, eggs, veggies, milk, etc. from grocery stores. I forgot to mention that she has recently obtained a PhD in Nutrition, so she has been studying how hormones, etc. in food affects people.

Good luck with your chicks and selling and trading them and planting a bigger garden. You will definitely see a difference in your feed bill. Keep up the good work.

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Thanks! PM'd ya. Thing is my Kid won't eat an animal he's met so he basically eats eggs and cheese, beans, peas, lentils, walnuts, almonds, hazelnuts. Oh, and bacon from pigs from our neighbor. Other sources of protein affect him like peanuts, cashews and soy.

One thing I meant to mention is that once we have enough eggs to sell, we can get $3.50 a doz which is the going rate for farm fresh eggs around here (Denver area). I also use them to barter from time to time (like just traded 1 doz eggs and a loaf of homemade cinn bread for a bunch of books and jars!).

Gold, baby!

We'll also be raising about 25 dual purpose this summer, and culling for freezer camp. Not that my kid will eat them, but I like a good chicken in the crockpot from time to time!

WORTH every penny to feed my girls. Even if something happens and we have to move to an apartment, we'll have "stealth" chickens (prob silkies) to provide eggs for us. We'll just say they are exotic yard birds mixed with poodles!!!
 
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You're right HHandbasket. So I wonder what does that say about him? He is a member of this forum format such as this in which this huge topic that proves difficult to discuss intelligently as well. I wonder why would be want to surround himself around forums such as this? I always thought that I was in good company in all of these forums on BYC. This is where I have learned the most about my animals, to include emergencies and illnesses where the information received from this format from my BYC friends have saved the lives of several of my animals. I am VERY grateful for these forum formats such as this. Just my 2 cents.

And now back to our regularly scheduled program.
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You quoted me correctly. "This is a huge topic that proves difficult to discuss intelligently in a forum format such as this. It involves economics/politics/science/sociology etc. " The emphasis is upon the format of this or any other forum, where comments come in bits and bites. It is the nature of forums. Yes, forum formats are indeed difficult places to take on such a broad and difficult subject.

That some saw that comment, not as it was, merely an objective stating of the difficulty of the format, but rather chose to see it as a "slap" at the members of the this forum, is unfortunate. I have attacked no one, yet I have now been the butt of several harsh posts, assuming my objective comment was somewhat directed at the intelligence of BYC posters. There was nothing in my comment that stated that.

Again, I apologize. There is nothing else to say, except to say this unfortunate response, sadly, proves the point rather well.. A format such as this is subject to misunderstandings and oft times results in hurt feelings, when absolutely none was ever intended.​

To Fred's Hen's...

I understand what you were/are saying. I don't think what you said was insulting at all. A forum IS a difficult place to have a discussion such as that.

I found nothing offensive in your post and see that you were just trying to be informative and helpful. Thanks for that.
 
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Fred's Hens :

Again, I apologize. There is nothing else to say, except to say this unfortunate response, sadly, proves the point rather well.. A format such as this is subject to misunderstandings and oft times results in hurt feelings, when absolutely none was ever intended.

Exactly what I was thinking - they just proved your point. But thanks for your sensible points about costs. Raising my own chickens is pretty much the same as buying expensive free-range eggs and meat, except I get to step in the chicken poop...er, have all the fun myself!​
 
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You're right HHandbasket. So I wonder what does that say about him? He is a member of this forum format such as this in which this huge topic that proves difficult to discuss intelligently as well. I wonder why would be want to surround himself around forums such as this? I always thought that I was in good company in all of these forums on BYC. This is where I have learned the most about my animals, to include emergencies and illnesses where the information received from this format from my BYC friends have saved the lives of several of my animals. I am VERY grateful for these forum formats such as this. Just my 2 cents.

And now back to our regularly scheduled program.
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You quoted me correctly. "This is a huge topic that proves difficult to discuss intelligently in a forum format such as this. It involves economics/politics/science/sociology etc. " The emphasis is upon the format of this or any other forum, where comments come in bits and bites. It is the nature of forums. Yes, forum formats are indeed difficult places to take on such a broad and difficult subject.

That some saw that comment, not as it was, merely an objective stating of the difficulty of the format, but rather chose to see it as a "slap" at the members of the this forum, is unfortunate. I have attacked no one, yet I have now been the butt of several harsh posts, assuming my objective comment was somewhat directed at the intelligence of BYC posters. There was nothing in my comment that stated that.

Again, I apologize. There is nothing else to say, except to say this unfortunate response, sadly, proves the point rather well.. A format such as this is subject to misunderstandings and oft times results in hurt feelings, when absolutely none was ever intended.​

Dear Fred, those of us that are comfortable with our intelligence understood your post. Please do not let a couple of self-doubters override the rest of us that enjoyed your post.
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Great ideas and great topic!
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Is this the concensis? If you value eggs at supermarket value, it's a losing situation. If you value the eggs differently, the "cost" of the eggs is immaterial.

Personally, I don't want to know what my eggs cost. If I figured in labor, feed, building, land cost, etc., I'd have to have about $50/dozen. The labor bill is really high here.
 

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