Considering Getting Chickens..Some questions..

Agreeing with what’s been said so far, though the issues about free ranging depend on where you are and your situation. With that much land, I can't think you will need to worry, my hens free range and rarely if ever leave our yard. As said, as long as no one feeds them from the other side of the fence, and they have lots of area including shrubbery and trees to offer cover, it is most likely they’ll stick around.

The suggestion about two year old hens is a good one, as well as at least three hens, but five or so is better IMO because if one IS lost to predation or anything else, the others will have some sort of intact group. Illness is always possible, but not nearly as common as it might seem based on what you read here! The sheer numbers of members here means that out of thousands of members posting, there will be plenty of ‘illness topics’.

Depending on how large your barn is, horses or ponies often like chickens, and 3-5 chickens take very little room. I had a hen who always layed her egg on my horse’s hay ration, and he nibbled the hay from around where she was setting. Goofy boy never to my knowledge broke the egg!

As to cold, choose a breed with small combs, pea combs or rose combs etc, or at least small single combs for best results such as Chantacler, Buckeyes, Wyandotte, Dominique, Faverolles to name a few. These breeds as well as others I didn't name, were bred in large part to handle cold very well. Of course, Rhode Island Reds, (RIR) or New Hampshire Reds (NHR) were also bred for cold hardiness but since their combs tend to be larger, they can be subject to frostbite. I’m including a link to Henderson’s Chook Chart. Any of the breeds with a snowflake in the egg column are a good choice. On the chart, it primarily means they continue to lay decently in the winter, but this is really a true sign of other cold hardiness too! http://www.ithaca.edu/staff/jhenderson/chooks/chooks.html#c

You can build a sort of hood or enclosure around a roost for them which will contain their body warmth at night in the winter even in a large building. They won’t much need it during the day, chickens really don’t mind the cold as long as they have shelter from the wind and rain/snow. Using a 2x4 for their roost with the wider side up will allow them to roost with their feathers covering their feet very well, so no frostbite there!

Chooks are a blast! Go for it!
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I would recommend that you take the plunge and start with chicks. It is definately harder; however, you stated that you want them for pets. I have broodered day-olds in my basement and I have let my hens brood their chicks. The hens that I broodered are sooo bonded to me. A couple know their names and come when called. They are my perfect idea of a pet.
I think it is great that you approaching this in such a thoughtful fashion. You are going to make a lovely chicken owner.
 
I'm going to go a bit against the grain here and say, even older hens get friendly with you, so don't feel pressured either way. I think it's just easier fur US to bond with chicks, but either way, it'll work out. I've gotten older hens and they can be just as much pets as ones I've raised from chicks. I'm not sure about that 'bonding' thing... I think it's a human emotion, chickens 'know' their people, and react to them, but really, it's based on food and kindness. They're just as much fun for us though, and they are still very easy to get fond of for all that.

Go with whatever works for you!
 
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agreed. two years old is still easy to 'bond'. we associate emotions with them. their bonding is different then ours.

they will come get pets or affection on their terms after associating you with food just as easily as a chick. chicks grow up into pullets and cockerels who may not want to be 'snuggly' as soon as hormones kick in. it's the way it works. each animal is different.
 
I'm thinking the really big breeds -- Jersey giants, australorps -- would be less inclined to fly, especially if they've got 2 acres to roam around on.

Here's something my dad did when I was a kid. He bought a few "spent layers" from a nearby egg farm. They had been crammed into battery cages all their lives. Their toenails had grown out and needed clipping, their feathers were a mess and their poor little breasts were burned and raw, but otherwise they were fairly healthy, with some egg laying still left to them, and they were not that old.

They were also completely passive and had no idea how to be real chickens. I was assigned to care for them. I think I was about twelve, and it was my first experience at rescue.

I clipped the toenails, put up a roost for them, kept an eye on them out in the barnyard. It was the most wonderful thing to watch them learn to be chickens! The first time one of them tentatively tried to take a dust bath was a blast! The first time I gave one of them a grub was hilarious! And they were my friends for life.

They never learned to fly, and I had to teach them to get up on a 2x4 I set up an inch about the ground, but some of them never got the hang of that, either.

My poor benighted family still doesn't understand why I love chickens.
 
Thanks everyone for the replies and suggestions. I'm still thinking it over, but I have awhile, hopefully years, to decide. Our pony could surprise us all and live to be 40 or so.

Rescued battery chickens do have a LOT of appeal, but I doubt I'd find any over two years old, and the clipped beaks would upset me greatly. (For the same reason I would never adopt a declawed cat.) I don't suppose that clipped beaks grow back????

I also wonder about rescue groups that handle a wide variety of animals beyond just cats and dogs. Sometimes they take in chickens from hoarders or old persons who have died and left barnyard animals.

Chicks are not an option for us for a variety of reasons.

As far as bonding with chickens, when I said I want them for pets, I didn't mean they have to be cuddly/friendly. I can get along with any pet whether it greets me with suspicious hostility or follows me around like a puppy. By 'pet' I just meant not kept for food purposes (eggs or meat.) I only look for docility when selecting a dog or horse; other pets I just take as they are.

I do plan to search for older hens. If a chicken CAN live to 15 or 20, mine are likely to. My animals tend to live forever. I haven't had a horse make it to 48, but all of ours have lived into their 30s, so I have to plan that my hens might live to be really old. I absolutely do not want to be in a position someday of having to rehome or destroy any of my old animals. This is a terrifying nightmarish vision for me. If we should need to move off this mountain as we get older, we can take our dog and cat etc with us to a home closer to conveniences, but not chickens. It would actually be easier to move with our pony because she could be boarded at a stable. No one boards chickens!

I have a serious phobia about this. I once took in a foster collie from a rescue place and when I had to give her to the permanent home that was found for her...well I've never gotten over the guilt. It felt like I was abandoning my dog at a shelter. Even though it was a good thing to do, and I'm told she was a good fit with the family that took her, I will never do that again. When I get an animal it is til death do us part!

I do have plans for predator proofing the barn, but am not much worried about the pasture during the day. It is all mowed as lawn and within sight of the windows. I've never seen a hawk hunting in our pasture, and there are plentiful small prey animals there. The hawks sometimes circle over the wooded hill up behind our land, but never seem to come closer. Also I am out most days with my two dogs, gardening and walking, so the chickens would be sort of supervised. Nonetheless it would be possible to make little tractor type runs with open doors that the hens could take refuge in, and install them in the outer areas of our pasture. I think 2 acres was probably an over-estimate. Our whole property is about 2 1/2 acres. part of that is a swampy area that won't be part of the fenced area, and we also have large front, back and side yards, so probably the pony/chicken pasture is closer to one acre than to 2 acres.

As far as neighbors... Well I won't get into it in detail, but they don't come onto our property. We are suing them over a nasty property boundary dispute, and will have a restraining order barring them from trespass when all is said and done. The page wire fence that we will be installing will be set well in from the road. So neighbors feeding our chickens aint gonna happen!

I think that clipping their wings should prevent them escaping, from what people here have said. I have a friend/acquaintance who keeps parrots and knows how to clip wing feathers, so she should be able to help me; if not, the avian vet could show me how.

If I could choose, the barred rocks and NH or RI reds are my favorites, and are supposed to be hardy in cold areas. But in looking for older hens I may not have a choice.

Thanks everyone for the help. It's much appreciated. If anyone knows if clipped beaks can grow back, I'd love to know! Thanks again and nice to meet all of you.
 
I can't speak to cold winters or beaks, but the subject of animals and how long they live is a big one at our house. DH retired a few years ago and we have recently become empty nesters. DH is (was) of the opinion that we shouldn't get any new animals because they will "tie us down". (This from a man who is such a homebody it's hard to get him to go to dinner, let alone on a trip...)
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He used this reasoning three years ago when I was ready to re-up after grieving for a few years after we lost our Golden Retriever at age 10. My point was that our other pets were likely to live at least another 10-12 years so adding a Golden Retriever puppy would be right in line with their life expectancies. He finally agreed (I wore him down
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) and our now 3-year-old Golden is not only HIS dog and favorite companion, but has not tied us down in the least.

He had similar concerns over the chickens, and it IS a little harder to find someone to care for them than the other animals when we go away, but that's only because I don't quite have a plan in place, but I will. As far as chickens "outliving" you, others have pointed out that the lifespan of poultry can be full of surprises. But maybe you would feel better if you made arrangements right away with another chickenkeeper to take your birds should that ever be necessary.

For me AND DH, the fun of having these animals/pets around has greatly outweighed any concerns about what might happen down the line. Personally, I think all the pets will make us live longer lives, so I hope you'll get the chickens!
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