Considering keeping our cockerel... not plan A

Roosters are not like puppies or kittens. The more you handle them, the nicer you are to them, the nicer they are too you. That is a pack society. In chicken society is based on a pecking order. Each animal is either above or below the other animals in the flock. This changes as time goes by as it is constantly being determined.

Fear is a sign of respect. If a rooster is a little bit afraid of you, he respects you. He will show that by moving away from you, by not staring at you, not flapping his wings at you, and not excessively crowing. He is very aware of where you are, and is always moving to stay about 4-6 feet at least away from you.

People love rooster chicks, as they are naturally more aware of people. And they are more brave, so they confidently approach people, who often take that as liking them, as a puppy would. They are not afraid, and when you add a dose of hormones, they do not respect you. Many times people will love these darlings and have them sit on their laps, not realizing that they are taking the submissive role. Add the hormones, and the rooster that seemed to adore you, begins attacking you to prove that you are lower in the ranks. Roosters take people on according to there size. They tend to attack children first, then women, then men. Being flogged as a child, one always worries about facial scars or their eyes. Inexperienced people tend to ignore or miss the signs that a rooster is becoming more and more aggressive until the attack. This board is full of posts of where the darling became the nightmare. That is the possibility I am hearing in your posts.

The reason I recommended culling this bird, and replacing it with another. Is more than likely, this rooster is going to be attacking your pullets soon. Some roosters can be very violent. Not all, but most cockerels do not have any skill, but because they are bigger, and there no other bigger birds, they can get away with being a bully. What I recommended, was removing this bird now, waiting until your whole flock was laying, and getting a rooster that was a year of age. By then their temperament is more established.

If you really want to keep this bird, then I recommend separating him from the flock when and if he gets aggressive toward the pullets. Leave him away from the girls until ALL of the girls are laying. Then add him back.

Roosters are a crap shoot. Some are wonderful, some are horrible no matter if you do everything right.

Mrs K
 
oh and if you need to handle a rooster in the daytime, I have had good luck with a fishnet on a four to five foot handle. I never handle my roosters unless I am inviting them to supper.
 
I have a big long-handles fish net, and a smaller one for in the coop. At night birds are easy to get from their roosts, but not so much during the day. I'm currently raising chicks, as I do every year, and they are getting needed education from the adults, and I'm not handling the cockerels, but observing them to make 'who stays' decisions. I have ten to twelve cockerels right now, and two or at most three will stay, as possible replacements. Maybe. The rest must move on, either to other flocks, or freezers. Mary
 
I love hearing all of your responses. I am a big softy I guess :confused: We got our chickens for eggs and for selling the overages. We didn't know how well we would enjoy the experience and since day 1, we have ALL fallen in love! :love

Daily we interact by taking care of basic needs, pet, talk to, hold and just plain observe our feathered additions to our lives. It never occurred to me that I had to interact differently (on my part) with any roosters we may have.

It sounds like if Henry is to stay, I will definitely need to start my interactions with him on a more matter of fact level and not so sweet :(

I have more questions about this topic, but I'll post them separately.
 
We have all been there, where you are. I love watching my chickens and have for more than 10 years. Wait till you try broody hens, nothing is more fun than watching a broody with chicks. Nothing takes as long as the 21 days till they hatch.

Culling is hard, especially if you have enjoyed them. Give him away asap. Don't ask questions. I am worried about your children. Maybe he won't attack them, but there is a good strong possibility that he will.

Give your whole family a chance to get some chicken experience. Roosters are where the romance hits reality. If you have roosters, you need a sharp knife and the realization that this bird might not work out. You must have a real plan what to do if the bird becomes violent. Wishing they would all be nice is tempting, we have all been there too, but it won't work.

MRs k
 
We have 75 young roosters right now and I have owned many more hundreds of them in the past. Most of them are not a problem for me or my kids, but I would guess around 5% of them will attack people, regardless of breed. If you have little kids, I would just always be out there supervising in case the rooster suddenly decides to attack. It is usually around 4-6 months old when the rooster gets their hormones. If they run up to your leg from behind while you're walking, that's a sign they will likely start attacking soon, so we eat them at that point if it happens. There was a very scary post I saw once where a toddler got a spur stuck in her face just under her eye when a rooster attacked her. A neighbor got attacked by another neighbor's supposedly harmless dog too, so I do agree with all the recommendations to be very careful if children are involved with any animals, especially when you're just learning. Bantam roosters are an idea you might like for the future because they're so tiny it doesnt hurt much when they flog you. I have a modern game bantam rooster that attacks me constantly when I'm outside, but he is just mildly annoying(like having a fly annoying me) so I haven't killed him yet. I dont want to make you unnecessarily fear your pet rooster though, since I am far more worried about neighbors dogs biting my kids than I ever have been about roosters.
 
We have all been there, where you are. I love watching my chickens and have for more than 10 years. Wait till you try broody hens, nothing is more fun than watching a broody with chicks. Nothing takes as long as the 21 days till they hatch.

Culling is hard, especially if you have enjoyed them. Give him away asap. Don't ask questions. I am worried about your children. Maybe he won't attack them, but there is a good strong possibility that he will.

Give your whole family a chance to get some chicken experience. Roosters are where the romance hits reality. If you have roosters, you need a sharp knife and the realization that this bird might not work out. You must have a real plan what to do if the bird becomes violent. Wishing they would all be nice is tempting, we have all been there too, but it won't work.

MRs k
Thanks for your kind words. :)
Our youngest is 10 and loves the chicks the most... I think she is just like me. Henry so far, doesn't pay her any attention. He at least comes near me, but not to her. So, in our kiddos still at home, we have the above mentioned 10 year old, a 12 year old and a 15 year old. I think the only other person Henry gets close to these days is me and he will near my husband only reluctantly if my hubby enters the coop/run with me.
 
We have 75 young roosters right now and I have owned many more hundreds of them in the past. Most of them are not a problem for me or my kids, but I would guess around 5% of them will attack people, regardless of breed. If you have little kids, I would just always be out there supervising in case the rooster suddenly decides to attack. It is usually around 4-6 months old when the rooster gets their hormones. If they run up to your leg from behind while you're walking, that's a sign they will likely start attacking soon, so we eat them at that point if it happens. There was a very scary post I saw once where a toddler got a spur stuck in her face just under her eye when a rooster attacked her. A neighbor got attacked by another neighbor's supposedly harmless dog too, so I do agree with all the recommendations to be very careful if children are involved with any animals, especially when you're just learning. Bantam roosters are an idea you might like for the future because they're so tiny it doesnt hurt much when they flog you. I have a modern game bantam rooster that attacks me constantly when I'm outside, but he is just mildly annoying(like having a fly annoying me) so I haven't killed him yet. I dont want to make you unnecessarily fear your pet rooster though, since I am far more worried about neighbors dogs biting my kids than I ever have been about roosters.
That actually leads to one of my questions. It could turn out that we have a White Silkie rooster. Our 3 Silkies are only 12 weeks right now and we have no clue if male or female, would that be a good option if we end up with a Silkie roo and gave Henry away?
 
It depends. Great answer, right? Some Silkie cock birds can be jerks too, and you really don't have a large enough flock (YET!) for two roosters, although Silkies often will need their own coop for their safety. Mary
 
That actually leads to one of my questions. It could turn out that we have a White Silkie rooster. Our 3 Silkies are only 12 weeks right now and we have no clue if male or female, would that be a good option if we end up with a Silkie roo and gave Henry away?
Might be fine from a pet stand point, but if you want to breed a silkie cockbird may not 'reach' a large fowl hen to fertilize...and as Mary points out, sometimes smaller cocks are just as if not more vicious, tho maybe less likely to cause injury just due to size.
 

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