I agree Pikeman. One time I took my students against the city and we kicked back side. We did it because they went in each with a different facet of education for the city hall. We could divide up the basic components of contention and have several presenters. Invite the press put on a display of education that would blow them away. In fact make fools of them if they say no. Use other communities and their basic rules. Sell the Victory chicken flock, Comepare pets dogs verses chickens, and more. Lets divide and concour! sp?