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Thank you everyone for your advice. When I first started thinking about having a self sustaining flock, I was thinking we would only have one flock. Now I'm thinking we will have two, one a mix for eggs and pets and the other pure bred for meat and eggs. I'm not sure if I want a roo with the first flock, but I'll probably end up with one. I love the babies! I have been a victim of chicken math in the past lol, so I am building big!

What kind of materials are your coops built with? We have landscape timbers and I plan on using hardware cloth. Also an enclosed coop with small doors that open and close on a timer so they are closed up at night. The area I am putting the coop is flat dirt with grass but has rock underneath, I'm going to outline the outside of the coop with some of the flat limestone rocks on our propery. Does that sound like,it will keep predators out?

Again, thank you for all the advice and tips!
Ricki

You need to keep in mind that predators can get in in various ways. Limestone on the edges will help some of the digging problems, but without substantial wire strength it won't keep them safe. Most people tend to use like 2 x 4 welded wire with chicken wire or hardware cloth attached at least to the bottom couple of feet as an added measure of protection. I have strong netting on top of all my pens. My greatest threat is from owls and hawks.
I have coops made of about everything imaginable. I tend to upcycle what I can. The problem with timers on doors is that some birds can get left outside accidentally. I personally never shut my doors on adult coops, cause the pens are fairly secure and I feel the air flow is a good thing. When I get my new building done however, I do plan to shut the chicken doors at night to help keep the rodents from getting in.
One thing I've learned is a raised coop gives you extra square footage. If you have an area under the coop it provides an area of shade and weather protection the chickens wouldn't otherwise have outside. Plus you get an added bonus of more square feet of area for them. I don't like putting the food inside the building so you can also protect your feed from weather by having it under the building. 15 inches or so is plenty to give them extra space and a place you can handle from the outside.
 
It's been quite a while since I've been on this thread.... I have a question about rabbits rather than chickens. We are wanting to add rabbits to our lil farm, I finally found holland lops close by Wichita which is about 4 hrs from us. Not ideal but couldn't find any closer. (By Garden city). Now, would you all buy off of craigslist? Or we could go to the local once a month auction tonight and see what's there? I'm unsure of what all I'm looking for, to prove a healthy vs unhealthy rabbit. We just want pets for our boys, ages 7 & 5. Thanks for any advice you have!
 
Do you have a preference for egg colors? At my place we try for a colorful basket and have had great success with Rhode Island Reds, Buff Orpingtons, Silver Laced Wyandottes, and Black Australorps for brown eggs, even in winter. Our White Leghorns lay white eggs, and might be our most productive hens. And for some color, there's always the classic Easter Egger!

Do you have a preference for egg colors? At my place we try for a colorful basket and have had great success with Rhode Island Reds, Buff Orpingtons, Silver Laced Wyandottes, and Black Australorps for brown eggs, even in winter. Our White Leghorns lay white eggs, and might be our most productive hens. And for some color, there's always the classic Easter Egger!
I like to have mixed colors, my egg customers like that & it makes it more interesting. I agree with danz you need to have your coop & run secure because raccoons can tear open chicken wire & reach through 2x4 & chain link to get a hen & pull her head through, then they eat the head off. Possums can get through very small spaces too.

It's been quite a while since I've been on this thread.... I have a question about rabbits rather than chickens. We are wanting to add rabbits to our lil farm, I finally found holland lops close by Wichita which is about 4 hrs from us. Not ideal but couldn't find any closer. (By Garden city). Now, would you all buy off of craigslist? Or we could go to the local once a month auction tonight and see what's there? I'm unsure of what all I'm looking for, to prove a healthy vs unhealthy rabbit. We just want pets for our boys, ages 7 & 5. Thanks for any advice you have!
Welcome back sunshinegirl. I would be very careful buying rabbits at an auction unless you know what you're looking at. Look for clear not runny eyes & noses & that they don't have runny poop by looking at the rear end. Those are just some signs of illness. You can check their teeth as well to see if they have overgrown teeth or a bad bite. They should look alert & not be lethargic. You can look up online about the different rabbit diseases & symptoms. There is a rabbit swap on FB if you're on there. If you're interested you can send me a PM & I'll give you the link, I'm not allowed to post it here.
 
Thank you everyone for your advice. When I first started thinking about having a self sustaining flock, I was thinking we would only have one flock. Now I'm thinking we will have two, one a mix for eggs and pets and the other pure bred for meat and eggs. I'm not sure if I want a roo with the first flock, but I'll probably end up with one. I love the babies! I have been a victim of chicken math in the past lol, so I am building big!

What kind of materials are your coops built with? We have landscape timbers and I plan on using hardware cloth. Also an enclosed coop with small doors that open and close on a timer so they are closed up at night. The area I am putting the coop is flat dirt with grass but has rock underneath, I'm going to outline the outside of the coop with some of the flat limestone rocks on our propery. Does that sound like,it will keep predators out?

Again, thank you for all the advice and tips!
Ricki

You should carry the hardware cloth out at least a foot at the bottom & then you can put rocks over that. That will keep things from digging under your pen.
 
I love having a colorful egg basket and I have so many different breeds I want because of how they look. But I'm trying to stay focused on having a breed that can be used as duel purpose. My DH had Dominiques growing up and thinks that would be a good breed, any thoughts? We also want a few goats lol but one thing at a time. How many do you suggest getting to start off? I'm thinking that ordering chicks and raising them would be best as we want the rooster to, hopefully, be friendly and used to us.
Thank you for all the input
Ricki
 
I have never had Dominiques so I can't give you any advice on those. Many of the older breeds like that aren't the same as they used to be. I know the New Hampshire Reds & Heritage Barred Rocks are good dual purpose breeds. The heritage Barred Rocks are nothing like the hatchery ones. They're much bigger & the barring is so much clearer. Whatever you get I would suggest getting from a breeder & not a hatchery. The thing that people don't understand is that hatchery birds aren't necessarily pure breeds. They often cross them to get better layers or whatever. So I guess what I'm saying is that if you want to make sure of what you're getting buy from a reputable breeder.
 
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I butchered 3 20 week old cockerels this morning. It went really well. Thanks again @ChickenDanz for the help last summer and the lessons. These guys were between 3.7 and 4.2 lbs each. They are resting in the fridge right now. A friend lent an extra pair of hands, and that was a huge help.

I have a really difficult decision coming up in a few weeks. I have two little barred rock (Frank Reese lines) cockerels that are approaching maturity (they are 14 weeks). They are filling in nicely and are absolutely beautiful. I would love for them to go to a flock rather than freezer camp. If anyone knows someone who needs a gorgeous heritage barred rock rooster, could you put them in touch with me? I would much prefer to rehome them rather than butcher them. I can send pictures if anyone is interested, and I'd be willing to drive a little to get good homes for them. I also have a couple of really pretty Speckled Sussex cockerels, too if anyone wants some lovely yard art (same age as the barred rocks, but they are maturing much faster and are much bigger).

It has been a while since I've been on. I'll go back and read earlier posts here pretty soon.
 
sharol I already have one of those in a pen growing out to butcher myself. I kept the two nicest ones & the one with the attitude is going to the crockpot later on. Right now he's keeping 4 hens company I got that are in quarantine, I figured it wouldn't matter much about him if he did get something. The hens are from a local guy who is selling out his laying flock & I need to replace some older hens. I have those to do along with the rooster when the time comes. I'm sure they're not laying any more so I don't want to feed them if they're not producing.
 

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