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I'm pretty sure Terry and John (smith) do carry the vet-rx. If you ever need anything from them and don't want to wait for it to ship, they always have a booth at the Gardner auctions.
BTW that is a great pic, very cute
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IVY, I just ordered some Denagard from Valley Vet, so it should get here pretty fast. I had put them back on the Tylan until the Denagard gets here because that's what I have here. I really think this all has been brought on by the wet cold weather since we just went from warm to all of the sudden that cold front & wind that first day. The chickens just don't seem that sick, they're all running around, drinking & eating & I did let them out into the sunshine today, I feel like the sun is good for them rather than being shut up. My Big Red rooster will stand & crow at me until I come let him out each day & he gets louder & louder until I do. My hubby says he's saying LET ME OUT OF HERE! He gets really upset with me if I make them stay in when I have to go somewhere for the day, but I don't want to leave them out & something happen to them while I'm not here, I would feel terrible. BTW, that is the cutest picture of your Runt with the baby goats! What a lucky dog that your son was able to revive him, he is a special dog.

I don't know if I did the right thing in opening up the foot on my hen, but it was just getting bigger & bigger & I know it was hurting her. I think maybe letting off some pressure might at least make it feel some better. I did use Tea Tree Oil on it, which is a good antiseptic & I use it on my own cuts at times & it seems to heal fast. I also packed some triple antibiotic ointment in there before I bandaged it, so that should help too. I will bring her in & soak it again today & then re-wrap it to keep it clean. I know that is a nasty infection & I hope it does get better, I hate to lose that hen, she is the prettiest one of the EEs I had, the other one is now living next door at the neighbor's house.
 
I think if your hen's bumblefoot has a pretty large core, the best way to treat it is to excise the core. I have heard that they tend to come back unless you open them up and get rid of the core, which is what happened to the hen I treated. She was much better for a number of months and then they excised the core when it came back. As far as I know it is doing better now.

Be sure you use an antibiotic ointment that has bacitracin in it. I believe most triple antibiotics has it as one of the antibiotics in it, as well as regular bacitracin. I believe the bacitracin is more effective on staph, which is what the bumblefoot infection is.

When you open it up, be sure to get the core or "plug" out of the middle of the swelling. Generally there is a black scab on the bottom of the foot. This is generally right where the staph infectioin entered the foot. Open the foot up, remove the scab and plug. Soak it in warm epsom salt if needed, but be sure to clean the hole out well. It will probably leave a pretty good sized crater in her foot. Clean it with some betadine and pack and wrap it with the antibiotic ointment and vet wrap. You will have to change the dressing every couple days or so, depending on the conditions in her pen.

It's amazing how well that vet wrap stays on if applied right!
 
I have a sweet little EE that has Bumblefoot. We (my daughter and I) used a Tricide-Neo foot soak over the summer for 2 weeks and tried excising the core without success. Her foot seems better -- much less swollen. She hasn't ever been limping, though. The foot is still a little swollen, but the other foot that was involved seems healed (the scabby thing is now gone from one foot.) Since the beginning of September we have been spraying the affected feet at bedtime with Vetercyn (sp) and it seems to help too. I expect to lose her eventually, but she isn't in pain so I'm playing it by ear. The other two chickens with sore feet were cleared up with the Tricide-neo during the early fall.

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I have had several years with GP's, and I love them heart and soul!!! What I have seen over the last 12 to 13 years is that any GP can wander. The pups learn that from a parent. When DD was here, she was my wanderer. Earl and Casper, do not do that. When we had Dudley, he would stay on our 40 acres, and never leave the fence.

In fact, when the three stray dogs came through our place this morning, they never left the fence, they just barked and raised cane. Either one of those dogs can jump the fence, seen Casper just flat foot clear it. They know where there charges are, and if something gets in with there goats and chickens, heaven help the animal that is in the fence.
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But like I said, the only one that I have ever wander was my female, and she was bad about it, even chased deer,
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but she has a very good home with lots of goats to protect, and that is the main thing.
 
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so PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, wash your hands after you work with your bird, and make sure it is the last thing you do when working with your birds!!!!!
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IVY, yes the ointment I have has the bacitracin in it, so hopefully for now that will help along with the soaking, which will help draw out any infection. I don't know if she stepped on something to start this all out or what. We do have lots of hedge trees here with thorns, so it's possible she stepped on one of those while out walking around or even just stepped on a rock wrong, who knows. At any rate, yes I am aware of the risk with Staph infection, I am a former nurse.

I think dogs have their individual personalities & that goes for every breed out there. One might be just laid back & not give anybody any grief & another of the same breed could be hyper & cause constant headaches. I was told that the puppy I'm getting is one that doesn't like being held, just wants to do her thing & her sister wags her tail every time the breeder comes out to the barn & wants to be handled, so these two puppies couldn't be more different. But for the LGD I was told if someone wants the waggy one for that the owner will have to be more hard-hearted with her & it will be harder to get her to do that job. I know that opinions range on the subject & people have very strong ones on either side. For my situation I will have to be able to handle the dog & teach her some commands & leash training, so she will have to bond to us also. Some people say this is not the way to handle an LGD, but I have been told that every creature & human in the household are a member of the LGDs pack & therefore will be protected. I just think there has to be a happy medium there to fit each situation.
 
--Ivywoods: That photo made my heart melt! I wish I had goats! My hubby and I are actually talking about moving outside of Larryville in a few years to get a bit of land. I'd like to expand my chickens and he wants goats. So sweet!


I went for the first time today into Lawrence Farm and Feed. That guy is awesome! I can't believe I've never been there before. I guess it's probably because his hours are exactly the hours I work at the bank. I over stocked so that the next time I need to get more feed/etc, I can plan to go on a day off.
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I had two freinds with lots of gp experience 1 was a resposible breeder that had about 70 free range chickens and 30 pygmy goats (that made themselves free range). The 2 females were aloud to roam but both of the males they had went strait to the road when they got out of their pen (they lived at the intersection of 2 county hwys) and got hit. The other one had 60 head of sheep along a rail road and hwy, tryed three males first that only managed to last 3 months or less each, not wanting stay close to the sheep and getting hit by trains and cars. His 4th GP was a female and managed to stay with the flock for the next 3 years until he sold the she and then her. He had been trying to breed her but couldn't get her to take and found out she finnaly got bred right after he sold her. Not saying this is the case with all GPs just the experience I've seen with them. Another freind of mine has goats on 120 acres with a male and female gp, they stay put and with the goats but will not allow any human contact, the most timid, aggressive GPs I've ever heard of.
 

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