Consolidated Kansas

[Trish44]

My Welsummer hen that is grown is one of my bigger hens too. I have a Welsummer cockerel, but he's still young yet & doesn't have all of his coloring or tail yet. I think he's going to be a good sized boy though, however he's not as big as my Frank's Barred Rock cockerel, now that boy is going to be huge. Sharol you talk about big, you should see the Lemon Cuckoo Orpington cockerel I have that I got from Danz, he's not grown yet & already he has surpassed all of my other roosters. He doesn't even have his tail yet, he's not even breeding age yet, but he is a big boy. Frizzled, I hope you figure out what your rooster is, he's gorgeous whatever his lineage is.

 

[OkieQueenBee]

It was a chilly day, at least the sun finally warmed things up a little bit. I'm hoping the young ones that we moved out to the new brooder house didn't get too cold. We put plastic up on the divider wall today so they should be warmer tonight. DH (KKB) closed the windows in the house, I'm with you Trish, I like to have fresh air, too, especially when I'm sleeping. Plus the fact I can listen for the guineas to holler if trouble is around. But, I do not like cold weather, period.
Thanks for the discussion on worming, of course I still have questions. Sounds like ivermectin is the way to go, but, pour on, or injectable? Or the horse paste wormer? The wormer on the bread treat sounds like a really good and simple idea, thanks for giving that report, HEChicken.
My big and fluffy BOs roost in the nest boxes and so there is poop in the boxes. I guess they are too big to get on a roost. They don't spend much time out in the yard, I think they are too prissy.
Frizzled all I know is that is a beautiful rooster.

 

[HEChicken]

Thanks for the discussion on worming, of course I still have questions. Sounds like ivermectin is the way to go, but, pour on, or injectable? Or the horse paste wormer? The wormer on the bread treat sounds like a really good and simple idea, thanks for giving that report, HEChicken.

As far as I'm concerned, the Ivermectin has been the easiest and most effective method of worming yet. You want the injectible and its not cheap but a small bottle lasts a long time because you only use 4cc/ml per gallon. You want to withhold ALL other water sources so they are forced to drink only the medicated water, and give them enough of it to last 2-3 days. I have a 5-gallon waterer and at the time I did this it lasted my birds a little over 2 days. I simply poured the Ivermectin into the bottom of it, then added the 5 gallons of water, and didn't have to do anything further. It is "self-dosing" in that a larger bird like a turkey will naturally drink more than a bantam hen, so each gets the ideal amount of medication in the course of their drinking water over the next two days. There is no need to redose.

Originally I was told that there was also no need for a withdrawal period from the eggs. JosieChick later educated all of us on why that information was false, so I do withdraw eggs for a 10-14 day period. For that reason, if you have a choice in the timing (i.e. you are doing it as a preventative vs. knowing you have a parasite problem), it is best to wait until the majority of birds are molting and laying is reduced anyway. That way you don't have to discard as many eggs.

You can get the injectible at most feed stores. Some of them carry it in a locked cabinet and it requires an employee to open it for you, but it is usually pretty easy to find, vs. having to order it online.

 

[Frizzled Pink]

Thanks all, hopefully i can catch up with Chooks soon. Everyone that sees him like his looks but nobody seems to be able to pin down the lineage.

 

[chicken danz]

It was a chilly day, at least the sun finally warmed things up a little bit. I'm hoping the young ones that we moved out to the new brooder house didn't get too cold. We put plastic up on the divider wall today so they should be warmer tonight. DH (KKB) closed the windows in the house, I'm with you Trish, I like to have fresh air, too, especially when I'm sleeping. Plus the fact I can listen for the guineas to holler if trouble is around. But, I do not like cold weather, period.
Thanks for the discussion on worming, of course I still have questions. Sounds like ivermectin is the way to go, but, pour on, or injectable? Or the horse paste wormer? The wormer on the bread treat sounds like a really good and simple idea, thanks for giving that report, HEChicken.
My big and fluffy BOs roost in the nest boxes and so there is poop in the boxes. I guess they are too big to get on a roost. They don't spend much time out in the yard, I think they are too prissy.

Frizzled all I know is that is a beautiful rooster.

The pour on ivermectin is great for mites but I doubt it does anything for worms. No need for a withdrawal on the pour on. I use the injectable the same as HeChicken. I use 4cc per gallon and use it for two days straight. I think the big orps are just too heavy to roost high. 18 inches is about the max for a roost I have for the orps but some still prefer the floor.
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As far as I'm concerned, the Ivermectin has been the easiest and most effective method of worming yet. You want the injectible and its not cheap but a small bottle lasts a long time because you only use 4cc/ml per gallon. You want to withhold ALL other water sources so they are forced to drink only the medicated water, and give them enough of it to last 2-3 days. I have a 5-gallon waterer and at the time I did this it lasted my birds a little over 2 days. I simply poured the Ivermectin into the bottom of it, then added the 5 gallons of water, and didn't have to do anything further. It is "self-dosing" in that a larger bird like a turkey will naturally drink more than a bantam hen, so each gets the ideal amount of medication in the course of their drinking water over the next two days. There is no need to redose.

Originally I was told that there was also no need for a withdrawal period from the eggs. JosieChick later educated all of us on why that information was false, so I do withdraw eggs for a 10-14 day period. For that reason, if you have a choice in the timing (i.e. you are doing it as a preventative vs. knowing you have a parasite problem), it is best to wait until the majority of birds are molting and laying is reduced anyway. That way you don't have to discard as many eggs.

You can get the injectible at most feed stores. Some of them carry it in a locked cabinet and it requires an employee to open it for you, but it is usually pretty easy to find, vs. having to order it online.

I have forgotten more than once about withdrawing eggs after using ivermectin and have had no ill effects from it. I think the biggest concern is that someone could have an allergic reaction to trace amounts. I would be more concerned eating a bird that has been treated than eating their eggs. Just my opinion. I do try to worm them when they are molting or taking a break from laying. Since using ivermectin for chickens is off label it is a precaution to withdraw from use. It simply boils down to the fact that there have been no studies conducted to see how long trace amounts are present in the meat and the eggs. Not that it would necessarily hurt you. But if you were pregnant or something I certainly wouldn't take a chance.
The only warm place in the house is in here where I have the chick bins. Between a sweeter heater and a light it is fairly pleasant. The rest of the house feels kind of chilly. The thermostat says it is 70 degrees but that is on an interior wall in the middle of the house. Even though it isn't supposed to be that warm out today I sure hope the sun will warm things. I sure don't want to turn on the heater yet.
I got a picture from my daughter and there were several inches of snow on the ground. (Evergreen, CO). I guess that is okay for some people but I just don't do cold. And then was it South Dakota there was like 39 inches of snow?? I'd tend to move to a warmer climate as opposed to moving north for sure.
At least I shut off all the fans in the coops yesterday. I doubt they need them to keep cool. Won't be long before I have to start closing up some windows and such in them.

 

[Ralph Moyer]

This evening I discovered one of my hen turkeys had hatched out nine little ones. She had her nest in the middle of one of the larger open poultry lots. She had some tall weeds around her but they did not provide much cover. It had rained at least twice and one with hail, while she was setting. I herded them into a covered 6x10x6 pen for safety and took some photos.

 

[22qZoo]

Danz or Trish- would one of you mind posting a pic of the bins you're talking about , now I'm curious what they look like.
I love the pour on ivermectin and I don't worry about the withdrawal . I figure if millions of people around world can use it I'm not going to worry about the trace amount that might be in an egg. It's done wonders for some of our family's dogs . My parents have a Jack Russell that used to be miserable , always itchy, licking his feet, scratching till he had bloody sores. The vets just kept selling them expensive "allergy" food and giving him prednisone . Finally we had a horse vet friend order some Revolution for him(which is ivermectin )and he's been fine ever since .
I went out and looked over the light brahma roo and in just a couple of days I can see the feathers on his neck are growing back in (yay) Maybe this cooler weather is making them grow fast. ; )

 

[Trish44]

Danz or Trish- would one of you mind posting a pic of the bins you're talking about , now I'm curious what they look like.
I love the pour on ivermectin and I don't worry about the withdrawal . I figure if millions of people around world can use it I'm not going to worry about the trace amount that might be in an egg. It's done wonders for some of our family's dogs . My parents have a Jack Russell that used to be miserable , always itchy, licking his feet, scratching till he had bloody sores. The vets just kept selling them expensive "allergy" food and giving him prednisone . Finally we had a horse vet friend order some Revolution for him(which is ivermectin )and he's been fine ever since .
I went out and looked over the light brahma roo and in just a couple of days I can see the feathers on his neck are growing back in (yay) Maybe this cooler weather is making them grow fast. ; )

Here is the bin we're talking about, they come in several colors but only have two to order online & you have to buy 6 of them if you order them. I found mine at the Walmart store in Derby, but they only had black. I wish I could have found them in the pretty colors. I may order a few more just to have them because I don't think they're going to carry them much longer because I can't find them at the store any more. I saw on the reviews that others have been using them for chicken nests also. How creative are we chicken people! You do really have to hook them onto something to keep them stable if you use them because if they jump on top they will tip over easily.

Ralph, those are some cute babies, I'm glad you found them & got them in to a safe place. That's a good momma that sat out in the bad weather even to hatch & take care of her babies.

 

[sharol]

This evening I discovered one of my hen turkeys had hatched out nine little ones. She had her nest in the middle of one of the larger open poultry lots. She had some tall weeds around her but they did not provide much cover. It had rained at least twice and one with hail, while she was setting. I herded them into a covered 6x10x6 pen for safety and took some photos.

 

[Ok_Junebug]

Hello, Kansas neighbors....I'm visiting here from the OKIE thread. I would like to extend an invitation to our upcoming serama only traditional tabletop show. Serama are the only breed of chicken to be shown performing on an open table (no cage). Oct. 26, 2013 Keystone Lake, Salt Creek North Loop B Keystone Lake is just west of Tulsa. Judging starts at 10:00 A.M. Free hot dogs and soft drinks for lunch. Please join us.