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Thanks to everyone on the input on the puppy. I'm not sure what we are going to do. I miss having a dog, but I enjoy watching the deer and turkeys play in the field. But the guineas seem to be doing a great job of keeping them chased off. But, I do have a chicken cat.

Sharol, so jealous of the beautiful Marans egg. The "Marans" that we bought earlier this summer have never laid that dark of an egg. One hen laid a couple of nice darkish eggs, but then she died, another hen is laying a medium dark egg, and the other hen has yet to lay an egg. I wonder now if the one hen isn't actually a Cochin. How to know what breed I have?
I've got a lot of chickens that roost in the nest boxes, such a mess. A couple of the Zimmerman BOs can now get up on the roosts and one of them cackles as if to say, "look at me, I made it!"
We've got some of the brooder babies with swollen eyes. No runny noses, just puffy eyes and lethargic. Any ideas?
The wild turkey came into the shop, where we keep the feed, and ate some scratch out of my hand. Then she proceeded to just eat her fill out of the grain tub. How is the easiest way to tell the sex of a turkey? We're looking at the feathers (mohawk, kinda) on top of the head to be female.
Danz, getting attached to animals is just your nature, I know
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. Losing a bird is hard, especially one that you have put extra effort into, and she obviously enjoyed your company.
I hope that we have the chicken houses snug enough. I've left the heat lamps in the brooder pen and we don't chase the guineas out of the chicken house so they can add some body heat. The peafowl have a warm house if they choose to stay inside. We have one male turkey that sleeps on top of the peafowl pen and the wild turkey still goes to the trees. The ducks are on the creek and they seem content. Keeping water to them is the biggest problem. We have an extension cord for the heat lamps so can't use the heated dog bowls. One of the frost free hydrants we just put in is broke and the other one is bent, but hopefully will hang in there until we can replace the other one. Always something.
Sounds like everyone has their birds ready for this cold. I'm not. Have I told you all that I hate cold?
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OQB, the eye thing is a disease, you need to start them on an antibiotic PDQ, they can lose their eyesight pretty quick with that stuff & it is fatal. I personally use Tylan for it, the powder form you mix in water. It's pricy & you have to order it, but it only takes 1/4 of a teaspoon of the powder per gallon of water. Mix it with warm water first because it won't mix otherwise.

That's cute your Orps are proud for getting up on the roost. My young ones all but one have learned to get up on their roost in the growout pen, I wish that one would hurry up & learn how too so she wouldn't have to sit alone on the floor. She is the one I'm the most concerned about with this blast of cold coming because she has been sick & just finally is better. I'm still thinking of trying to put her in with my Cream Legbar chicks in the large brooder in the garage. At least she could be warmer in there till this is over.

I guess you have to weigh which is best for you with the dog. Do you want to take your chances on having your chickens wiped out by predators or do you want to have all the wildlife in your yard. I personally don't miss the deer because they brought with them lots & lots of deer ticks. We had read that if you got rid of the deer you would get rid of the deer ticks. We didn't have nearly as many of them this last year with the dogs keeping the deer out. We were just overrun with them before that. We still get to see the wild turkeys, just not in our yard now. I'm not sure with the wild turkeys, but with the RPs I've had I was able to tell sex of them by the snood & wattles. The males have a much longer snood hanging down by their nose & bigger wattles & they gobble & the females don't.
 
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Hechicken, I'll get a pic of my coop and post later. Not going out there when it's so windy and cold. :D We converted the horse stall into a chicken coop so it certainly is different that what most people have. I put bricks and concrete slaps around the bottom to keep shavings in and the north side has concrete floor so that helps.

I put a plastic tarp on the east side and one on the south. They are not held in tight so air still gets in. The west wall is solid and there is a door to enter the horse barn just north of the coop. So there is a hall way just north of the barn. With the door closed, wind won't get in.

I'll need to get a few bags of shavings tomorrow since I ran out. The wind sure is howling fiercely out there. The temperature has gone way down too. Now they are talking about school closing on Monday due to the bitterly cold front that will arrive soon.

It's a sad day for me today. My best friend's father passed away. We sort of expected it but didn't think it would happen so soon. Funeral is next Tuesday so I'll be taking time off for it.

Someone hit a small deer just north of us and the GPs found the carcass and brought it home. They have been munching on it according to my husband. Then when we came home from dinner tonight, just as we were pulling up to the garage, my husband saw something laying on the ground. He got out and kicked it around, it was a skin of some sort with long hair. He cant really tell what it was. Guess the GPs got a creature. They have been barking a lot last night.

Trish, really like the cast iron chicken. Very nice. I really like it.

I really need to get some house chores done. Stay warm.
 
Sharol, so jealous of the beautiful Marans egg. The "Marans" that we bought earlier this summer have never laid that dark of an egg. One hen laid a couple of nice darkish eggs, but then she died, another hen is laying a medium dark egg, and the other hen has yet to lay an egg. I wonder now if the one hen isn't actually a Cochin. How to know what breed I have?
 
Thanks to everyone on the input on the puppy. I'm not sure what we are going to do. I miss having a dog, but I enjoy watching the deer and turkeys play in the field. But the guineas seem to be doing a great job of keeping them chased off. But, I do have a chicken cat.

Sharol, so jealous of the beautiful Marans egg. The "Marans" that we bought earlier this summer have never laid that dark of an egg. One hen laid a couple of nice darkish eggs, but then she died, another hen is laying a medium dark egg, and the other hen has yet to lay an egg. I wonder now if the one hen isn't actually a Cochin. How to know what breed I have? If you got the birds I sold SH and not some others, they are the same birds Sharol's eggs came from. The one in question should have a pea comb rather than a single narrow comb if she is cochin. I am wondering if that bird got sick or something and lost her ability to lay? I think in this length of time I would just roast her. I don't understand why those birds aren't laying as well or doing as well if they were in fact the ones I sold her. Contrary to some beliefs the cochins I have had and do have, lay almost every day so the breed shouldn't be a factor in that. If she did lay however, the egg would be a very light brown. I do know that she had a bout of sickness cognestion, sneezing and such and had written me about what to do. She also lost at least one of the hens I sold her to it. That may very well have something to do with egg laying. I've got a lot of chickens that roost in the nest boxes, such a mess. A couple of the Zimmerman BOs can now get up on the roosts and one of them cackles as if to say, "look at me, I made it!"
We've got some of the brooder babies with swollen eyes. No runny noses, just puffy eyes and lethargic. Any ideas?
Be sure to disinfect everything associated with those chicks after you get it cleared. It spreads quite easily.
The wild turkey came into the shop, where we keep the feed, and ate some scratch out of my hand. Then she proceeded to just eat her fill out of the grain tub. How is the easiest way to tell the sex of a turkey? We're looking at the feathers (mohawk, kinda) on top of the head to be female. A male turkey would be puffing up and either strutting for the females or arguing with any Toms you have. It's snood would drop down longer and it's face will turn blue. I had wild turkeys for a couple of years.
Danz, getting attached to animals is just your nature, I know
smile.png
. Losing a bird is hard, especially one that you have put extra effort into, and she obviously enjoyed your company.
I hope that we have the chicken houses snug enough. I've left the heat lamps in the brooder pen and we don't chase the guineas out of the chicken house so they can add some body heat. The peafowl have a warm house if they choose to stay inside. We have one male turkey that sleeps on top of the peafowl pen and the wild turkey still goes to the trees. The ducks are on the creek and they seem content. Keeping water to them is the biggest problem. We have an extension cord for the heat lamps so can't use the heated dog bowls. One of the frost free hydrants we just put in is broke and the other one is bent, but hopefully will hang in there until we can replace the other one. Always something.
Sounds like everyone has their birds ready for this cold. I'm not. Have I told you all that I hate cold?
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I want this to put on top of my woodstove for a humidifier. I have one, but it has gotten rusty & I need a new one, I love this one.

That is so cute!

KSKINGBEE I still see deer and turkeys all the time. The dogs have a distance they patrol and don't let intruders in. But I can still look at the wildlife without a problem. The only thing I have "missed" is having them in the yard eating my garden and having my birds killed by predators. Just sayin'.
Sharol I'd advertise that BCM on craigslist or maybe the NE Kansas poultry swap facebook page.
I heard on the weather last night that with the temps we are getting Monday and Tuesday that frost bite will occur in less than 30 minutes. I don't know how I am supposed to feed and water and not get frost bite. It takes me a minimum of a couple hours. It's certainly not going to work to go in and out because in those temps if I shut off the hose it will freeze for sure. If it doesn't freeze while running. And yes that does and has occurred. I've had hoses freeze more than once while watering if I don't have full pressure going. I wish there was some way to keep water out there for those two days without the problems of having it freeze or evaporate away.
It really worries me. I can only imagine what the electric bill will be for this time period!!! Not to mention all the propane we'll go through for the house. I guess the hidden blessing will be if it snows. At least they can eat the snow and get some water that way. Sounds like that is supposed to start here this afternoon.
 
Danz - don't shoot me for saying this because I know it is probably completely impractical with the number of pens you have but here goes anyway. What if you had a bunch of gallon milk containers and you fill them from the kitchen sink, then load them all into a wheelbarrow and wheel them around, emptying them into water pans as you go? I only have one waterer to fill but that is the way I do it (minus the wheelbarrow) and that way I don't have to worry about running hoses at all. A gallon will not freeze in the time it is sitting in the wheelbarrow waiting to be emptied, especially as you won't be able to fill enough to do them all in one sitting anyway. Say you had 10 and you went and emptied those, then went back in the house to refill them. That would give you a chance to defrost while you are working in the warmth of the house, and then you can load them up and go and deliver water to 10 more pens. Just a thought….

Last night I noticed one of the Bourbon Red hens has a sinus infection, so I researched what antibiotic to use on her, and this morning loaded a syringe and caught her and injected her with it. The information I had suggested to do it 4 days in a row, and while I was sitting in the sun after injecting her, I realized I should have banded her so that after the swelling goes down, I can tell which one to continue injecting until the full course is done. THAT is when I went to see if she has any other distinguishing marks, and discovered that BOTH BR hens have swollen sinuses. And of course, now I don't know which one I already injected. So here's what I'm going to do - tomorrow morning I'll band one and inject both. From then on out, I will inject both each morning for 4 days. It means whichever one I did this morning will get dosed 5 days in a row, but I figure that is better than one only getting 3 doses. I hate to wait until tomorrow to start treatment on the second one, but don't want to risk double dosing one of them this morning. Grrr. The blue slate tom is also looking swollen and I'm not sure what to do about him. I really don't have a place for him since I don't have a hen to match him, so I'm wondering if I shouldn't just butcher him now, rather than treat. He is so pretty I hate to do it but I really don't need an extra tom without a hen, and I can't sell him sick and nobody wants to buy this time of year even if I treated and got him better.

I don't know why its just these 3 either. The RP's are fine and healthy and the BR tom is fine. Anyway, hopefully we'll get through this ok.

Trish, that is a gorgeous humidifier - I can just see it sitting atop a wood stove.
 
Brrrr! I was about 30 posts behind and I can't seem to concentrate, so I'm not going to try to go back and read them right now. Sorry! I just wanted to check in a little and tell everyone I hope you're staying warm enough. The forecast doesn't look great.
 
Danz - don't shoot me for saying this because I know it is probably completely impractical with the number of pens you have but here goes anyway. What if you had a bunch of gallon milk containers and you fill them from the kitchen sink, then load them all into a wheelbarrow and wheel them around, emptying them into water pans as you go? I only have one waterer to fill but that is the way I do it (minus the wheelbarrow) and that way I don't have to worry about running hoses at all. A gallon will not freeze in the time it is sitting in the wheelbarrow waiting to be emptied, especially as you won't be able to fill enough to do them all in one sitting anyway. Say you had 10 and you went and emptied those, then went back in the house to refill them. That would give you a chance to defrost while you are working in the warmth of the house, and then you can load them up and go and deliver water to 10 more pens. Just a thought….

Last night I noticed one of the Bourbon Red hens has a sinus infection, so I researched what antibiotic to use on her, and this morning loaded a syringe and caught her and injected her with it. The information I had suggested to do it 4 days in a row, and while I was sitting in the sun after injecting her, I realized I should have banded her so that after the swelling goes down, I can tell which one to continue injecting until the full course is done. THAT is when I went to see if she has any other distinguishing marks, and discovered that BOTH BR hens have swollen sinuses. And of course, now I don't know which one I already injected. So here's what I'm going to do - tomorrow morning I'll band one and inject both. From then on out, I will inject both each morning for 4 days. It means whichever one I did this morning will get dosed 5 days in a row, but I figure that is better than one only getting 3 doses. I hate to wait until tomorrow to start treatment on the second one, but don't want to risk double dosing one of them this morning. Grrr. The blue slate tom is also looking swollen and I'm not sure what to do about him. I really don't have a place for him since I don't have a hen to match him, so I'm wondering if I shouldn't just butcher him now, rather than treat. He is so pretty I hate to do it but I really don't need an extra tom without a hen, and I can't sell him sick and nobody wants to buy this time of year even if I treated and got him better.

I don't know why its just these 3 either. The RP's are fine and healthy and the BR tom is fine. Anyway, hopefully we'll get through this ok.

Trish, that is a gorgeous humidifier - I can just see it sitting atop a wood stove.

HEChicken, this is what Bandaid had & he never totally got over it. What did you give your hens? My hens in the pen didn't seem to get it & they were in there with him the whole time because I had no other pen to put him in. If I were you I would go ahead & butcher that lone tom & then you won't have to treat him.

Danz I'm really worried about this arctic blast coming too, I can't do all of my chores in 30 minutes either. It takes me two trips just to feed all of the birds & the goats. I have it down to a routine where I feed all of the pens in the back & the hoop coops & then I go back for feed for round two when I get the duck & goat feed & then the hay. I'm going to go out & do all of the water in a bit so they all have fresh water & I need to give meds in a couple of pens too. I'm really worried about my young chicks out in the growout pen. I'm afraid I'm going to lose some during this storm & I can't afford to lose any more.
 
After researching it, the recommendation I got was to use Injectable Tylan 50, 3cc for a turkey over 15lb, once a day subq for 4 days, then in the water after that. Putting it in the water is problematic for me in winter, but I decided to see if she responds to the 4 days of injections and go from there. I will keep you posted on how she does. I'm not that surprised that your others didn't get it even in the same pen, since I think this is an infection rather than a virus. After not having any issues with respiratory stuff - ever - about 10 birds developed respiratory infection symptoms after I had a buyer come in and buy a pair of turkeys and a trio of Exchequers. I can't say quantitatively that he brought it in, but the timing makes me really suspicious and I've decided since, that I won't be allowing buyers to visit in the future. Instead, I will meet them somewhere.

Treatment is not that easy for me this time of year. The warmest place to be is in the coop and I didn't want to take birds that were already sick out of the coop and put them in the hoop coop to treat them, not to mention that dosing in the water isn't possible in winter with it freezing every night. So, although I did order the soluble Tylan, I haven't yet opened it, and instead decided to take a "survival of the fittest" approach. The 10 or so birds who were sniffling and sneezing did so for weeks, not getting worse but not getting better either. Yet, they didn't seem to be infecting the others, which told me right there it was not an infectious issue. Who knows why some git it and not others? Anyway, in the past two weeks, I've noticed that most of the birds who were snuffly are now sounding quite normal again and I figure those are the genetics I want to pass along - the ability to fight and win against an infection without assistance. However these 3 turkeys, instead of getting better, developed the sinus infections. They are still eating, drinking, and otherwise behaving normally but I had a sinus infection once and I know how miserable it felt, so I decided to go ahead and treat, to try to get them back to feeling better.
 

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