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[heidi73931]

I saw the same thing and tried it. I was worried I would drowned them but I tried it anyway. I really am not sure if I did it right but they lived. LoL! I think I gave a second shot in the breast. Not sure of my advise but I thought It was crazy too. I tried it on a peacock and turkey .

 

[chicken danz]

So I wish someone would clarify which antibiotic works best for birds. I hate to buy more of this and that without knowing which will do what. Did that make sense. I prefer a broad spectrum type antibiotic that will work quickly for respiratory as well as other infections. So when you inject in the nostril do you just inject into the opening or do you go into the tissue itself? Got me very curious now. I really like to be prepared for any emergencies. I haven't got any help from my vet since he doesn't do birds at all.

 

[Hawkeye95]

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It doesn't go into the nostril. You inject into the tissue under the eye. I'll try to hunt down that blog or whatever it was! There is a GREAT picture that shows how they do it! I read that Baytril is a more "broad spectrum" antibiotic. Not just for respiratory, because it permeates the barrier of the brain. Most drugs do NOT do that. So if they have some horrible virus that is effecting their brain, then Baytril is your drug. From what I've been reading, if you just have respiratory troubles, then I think that Tylan might actually work better! Which figures.

(since it's not what I'm using! ha! ) Okay-- off to hunt down that article....

 

[Hawkeye95]

Okay... found it!! http://www.vonrussellfarm.com/pfcare.html

excerpt from this site: "Tylan has one drawback, it breaks down the muscle tissue were it is injected, one more reason for injecting into the sinus cavity. The breakdown in breast tissue is degenerative, it does not build back. Knowing that peafowl live to be 30 years and older, if they are given shots of Tylan every couple of years, there can be a real problem with repeated breast injections. I have read threads on message boards from individuals who say you must give a shot every day for three days and you must use Tylan 200 and because it is stronger, it cures the problem with less damage. Wrong, four times as strong, four times the damage and with one shot of Tylan 50 to the sinus cavity there is no need for more shots."

And here is the picture (also on the website above)

 

[chicken danz]

I've been researching. I saw a picture that was on a site for peacocks. I was hoping for a video. I think doing that yourself without a great anatomy of bird sinuses could be fatal. I tend to be over cautious. I was reading on Baytril and on Tylan. Due to cost and what it treats it seems that if you aren't sure what you are dealing with, the Baytril would be the best choice. It seems safer to use. You can order some generic stuff on line but man is that pricy. I think I will just ask my vet to sell me a small amount. So Loralee what size syringe are you using and how much are you injecting? I know you probably posted this earlier but I'm feeling lazy. I could ask my vet but I'm sure he wouldn't have a clue since it would be a chicken.

 

[Hawkeye95]

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I think I might try it if I were very afraid they might die. Then I'd probably figure- what's the worst that could happen? Anyway, it's good to know. I think I'm going to create a Chicken 101 notebook of all the things I've learned about these drugs and what they do. This Tylan injection into the sinus cavity is going right to the top! Great to know in an emergency!

 

[Hawkeye95]

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You might have missed it- but i posted the link directly above this post. (we posted at the same time!)

Okay, as for how much-- Baytril is .25cc for ALL birds in the breast well below of the crop. My vet gave me syringes that say "for insulin use only". They are teeny tiny! Looks like they'd be easy to get a hold of, too. I bet your vet has them. The highest dose these syringes go is a full 1 cc. (it actually says 100 units on the syringe).

 

[chicken danz]

I should do that and be more prepared. I normally remember those kind of things once I've used them. I've actually been quite blessed with not having colds and such in my birds. What I've had were treated with VetRX. The have had other injuries and problems where I needed an antibiotic and only had the duramyacin which didn't help at all. I used colloidal silver for my last infection and it worked well although not fast. I wasn't aware of the calcium thing either so once I stock up on other antibiotics I may donate that to my farmer guy for his cattle. Thanks for the info. I actually keep some of those syringes around that size that I buy from the Farm supply. I am always needing a syringe to treat a cat, dog, feed a baby or something.

 

[Hawkeye95]

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Yeah, not a bad idea. My horses have taught me that they ONLY get sick when it's a holiday, middle of the night, weekend, Ice storm... or some other time when either the roads are not drivable, or when the stores/vet is closed. So I am chock full of meds here for them.

 

[chicken danz]

I try to keep things like replacement milk, nipples, medications, syringes, pedialite etc around. I also try too keep a supply of things like frontline and stuff like that so I don't run out. I keep bits of old medications around and don't have a problem at all using them on chickens or any other animal around here. It just takes common sense on dosing. Antibiotics loose about 30% potency after their expiration date. I just dose accordingly. I have learned by trial and error though. Did you know if you give a cat benedril it will make them foam at the mouth? I haven't tried it on dogs after doing that twice with cats. Didn't seem to hurt them but it sure makes them bubble up!