Then you don't eat them but you let them set for 3-4 days or they will be tough. I had never heard that before either. I did read the cooling thing on a web site is a government mandate but they use some kind of cold blaster. I need to do some more research on the letting them set thing. (someplace other than BYC) That part I don't understand. I don't know why they would be different than chickens. Of course I never eat chicken for a few days after butchering because I can't due to the smell. I wonder if it is like hanging meat?
That sounds the same as chicken to me! Before I processed my first chicken, I researched the heck out of it and what I read over and over was the necessity to let it sit in the fridge for 2-4 days after butchering and prior to cooking, in order to make the meat more tender. With that in mind, I've never eaten a freshly killed bird....
Hawkeye- the mushroomy taste is more because it is a earthy flavor not fungus flavor. Alot of people hate mushrooms and I am married to the biggest mushroom hater of them all. I love mushrooms but I dont use them anymore because he just cant make himself eat it. Anyway he devours the dandelions when I cook them. Between him and my 2 kids there is not any left by time I take the next batch out of the fryer lol.
I am eager to try these. I have some dandelion flowers in my yard still so I think tomorrow I'll pick them and fry them up for lunch for DH and I. Do you have any tips on frying? Do you just throw them in and saute with a little oil or do something else to prepare them for cooking first?
Ugh, I am in the worst cranky mood. I am telling you, the glass is half empty and I could throw it like a small child right now!!! How ridiculous, I feel like such a brat. DH just sent me a forwarded email that he has a conference for work the second weekend in Dec. in NY!! I am so aggravated. Does this company not think that having conferences right before the stinking holiday is inconsiderate? We are going to Maine for Christmas, if this house works out we are going to be scrambling to get stuff done there so we can move. I am packing and trying to get this place ready to list for sale, get someone coordinated to care for the petting zoo while we are gone....It never ends. And to top it all off I am pregnant and getting tired a lot faster so I can't do as much as normal. So I guess we are going to leave the pregnant wife home to get everything done while we go to stupid work conference. I could call the CEO and chew his ear off. What is wrong with people in business, don't they have any respect for people and their families? It is no wonder this guy who runs this company has been divorced so many times!! Sorry for the vent, just super aggravated with how much is on the plate and now I get to contend with it right before we leave for a big trip by myself! The weekend is the only time we can get anything done....
Uh - oh - so sorry. I don't blame you for feeling cranky.
There will be no city hens for this Overland Park family.
I received my copy of our HOA declaration of restrictions from my title company today and it does say no poultry is allowed. When I asked our HOA president about it she said there was nothing written about chickens and come to find out, her entire section of paperwork for the declaration of restrictions is missing. I really appreciate all the help and support you have all given me along the way and I hope you don't mind if I still peek in on your posts from time to time.
Sorry to hear the news. Because I had submitted the public user comments, I did get an email from the OP City Council informing me you had withdrawn your request but I'm sorry to hear the reason for the withdrawal. Another option than changing the HOA covenants would be to move - is that in the cards?
I need to think it over and make the right decison. Butcher or sell.
If this will make the decision easier....I honestly don't think its responsible to sell a rooster you already know is a problem, as it is just passing off the problem to someone else. Most everyone who wants a roo, wants one that will be good to both his hens and the people who care for them. A problem roo for you is likely to be just as big a problem in a different flock.
I can't have any more turkey, unless they're dinner.
Uh oh, not ever? I was kinda hoping to set you up with a pair next year....
So we countered on the house at noon and no word yet. Not sure if that is good news or bad.....She got back right away yesterday, within the hour with a verbal counter offer which surprised me because usually it takes at least 24-48 hours. I am hoping....I just want to get the ball rolling.
Its probably not bad news. When we bought this place, the counter offers went back and forth for three days until we reached an agreement. Some of the time there were many hours in between contact. I confess that at one point I was so sick of the whole thing that I became an oyster (head in the sand) and refused to even take our realtor's calls. I told DH, whatever the latest counter offer was, it could wait until the next morning so I didn't even listen to my voicemail and respond until then. So probably the sellers at that point were wondering why so long passed and they hadn't heard from us but it was only that I was enjoying a relaxing evening NOT dealing with it.
I am so with you on this whole process - I just like things to be settled. The next thing you will be facing is the negotiations over selling your house. Honestly, that was worse for me than buying. As a buyer, if we couldn't reach agreement, I wasn't out anything - I would just keep looking until we found another property that met our needs. But as a seller it feels like there is more at stake because if you can't reach agreement with THIS buyer, who knows how long it will be before you even get another offer. A friend and I both listed our houses the same week and I was so lucky to get an offer within two weeks of listing the house, while she is still waiting, having to keep the house in show-worthy condition and never knowing when the next notification will come that there is a showing, and all the time waiting for someone - anyone - to be interested enough to even make an offer.
Here's how fermenting the feed works. Just take what you already have on hand, measure out enough for one day's worth of feed. I put mine in a 5 gallon bucket. (Some use double 5 gallon buckets with holes drilled in one. I tried that and wasn't crazy about it. The water drained too slowly for me so I just use a soup dipper to dip it up into a large strainer that I already had on hand.) Then fill with water, enough to completely cover the feed. Pour in a cup of apple cider vinegar with the "mother" in it. If it has been heat processed, there's no mother in it. I can get mine in the health food section of the grocery store. The brand name is Braggs and it comes in a quart jar. So that I don't have to keep buying the pricier Braggs, I buy the regular ACV at Walmart in the gallon size, pour off enough to accommodate half the Braggs ACV. Combine the Braggs with the regular and it will grow the mother in it, as well. Just keep adding some of the "mothered" ACV to the cheap ACV and you'll never have to buy the Braggs again.
Okay, so now you have your feed, water and ACV in your 5 gallon container. Let it sit. It will begin to get a whitish film on top as it begins to ferment. Depending upon how warm it is where you are, it should be fermented within 6 hours to 24 hours in cooler climates. It will also bubble a bit when it is really ripe, as you stir it. Stir it a couple times per day and add more ACV (just a glug or two) every couple of days and add water as needed, to keep the feed covered. When you take feed out for the day, replace the wet with the same amount of dry feed so it will be ready for the next day. You just keep it going like a sourdough starter for bread. Do not pour off the old liquid, continue to reuse it.
The advantage to the fermented feed is that it is a natural probiotic for your birds and the increased improvements in the birds digestive tract equates to a 12% increase of protein availability, plus an increase in the availability of the other nutrients from your feed. It's like using a higher quality feed without paying for it. I've spent a fortune on 68 Soluble for my birds because they needed the probiotics and extra vitamins to stay reasonably healthy. This is going to save me quite a bit in costs, preventive and after the fact for the birds. The birds go crazy for it and acted like I had been starving them, when in truth I kept dry feed available to them and the neighborhood mice, 24 hours a day.
The most tedious part of this is that I have ducks and chicks so I have to have 3 different feeds going simultaneously. Still, I've decided the extra effort is worth it and my kids have done a reasonably good job of helping me keep it going while I've been sick. The kids are sold on this feed as they love to see the birds run like crazy for the fermented feed. Our birds have always been friendly, but their display of eagerness to get at their food really makes the kids and I feel great. We've only been doing it a week and a half and are looking forward to one of the big benefits -- far less smelly poo!
I am feeling much better -- just need to get my strength back and I'll be ready to rock!
Wow, thank you so much for this. I've been reading a bit of that thread about the lice, mites etc., when I have a spare minute or two and had meant to check out the thread on fermenting feeds but don't seem to have enough time to focus on research these days. I really appreciate you simplifying it down here for us, and especially the tip on the ACV.
I've been a bit MIA the past couple of days. Every time I tried to read and get caught up, I got called away again so I'll keep any updates short.
Ned displayed this morning!!! Its the first time since his illness so I was really excited to see it.
Our furnace is working again. I am actually feeling very cranky about the whole thing. If you remember, I mentioned that the previous owner of this house worked for an HVAC company? So you'd think he'd know how to install the dang things, right? Well, Kansas Prairie had me look at the flame sensor since the symptoms I was describing matched a flame sensor that doesn't work. Following her guidance, I located it and "cleaned" it. At the time I noted that it didn't look dirty at all but....I don't know how fast they get dirty so I didn't know what to think about that. Also, since the system was just installed in Sept '10, I figured maybe it hadn't had enough use to get dirty? Well, I was right on that last part. We had a technician out today and it wasn't hooked up right so there is no way the system has EVER run. Seriously. An HVAC employee who doesn't know how to install a furnace in his own home correctly? I need to find out the name of the company he works for and make sure I never inadvertently call them out here. Sheesh. So after paying for a service call, we now have a furnace that runs. I guess last winter was so mild that they heated solely with the heat pump and the fireplace - maybe they never even knew the furnace didn't work?
The other thing about this that has me hopping mad is we paid for an inspector to do a "thorough" inspection of the place but he didn't notice the furnace didn't work? What were we paying him for anyway?
So the furnace has kept me busy but my car has also had me away for a few hours. I came out of the grocery store yesterday to find a tire so flat the wheel was sitting on its rim. I went to put the donut on, only to find that since I've never had to use it in the 8 years I've had the car, it was flat too. Sigh. Luckily the grocery store has a gas station in the parking lot and the gas station had air so it wasn't as bad as it could have been. I was able to pump up the donut and put it on the car. Today I was already scheduled to get the oil changed so I just added on a tire repair, and said as long as you're at it, go ahead and rotate the tires. Its probably a good thing I did, as they found the front brakes were practically metal on metal so I had to replace the brakes as well. So a simply 30-minute oil change turned into 3 hours and a $300 bill. Oh well, in the 8 years I've had the car, all I've done is oil changes and tires, so I guess it was due a little TLC.
Josie, I thought I'd update you on the Silchins. Now that they've matured a little - I guess they are like 10 weeks old now? - I can tell they are split 50/50 on gender. The one you thought was a Mille Fleur is gorgeous and I'm so happy she's one of the girls. Being a creative pet namer, I've named her Millie. LOL - 'nuff said. Big Blue is also a girl and one of the little splashes that is almost white is a girl and has a very pretty face - I really like her. The boys, well, you warned me the Silchin boys have 'tude and you weren't wrong. There is another almost white splash, almost identical to the girl and the other day when I was carrying him to the chick pen, he just reached out, grabbed a pinch of my skin with his beak and didn't let go until we arrived. It was like "Put me down. I'm warning you. I'm not letting go your skin until you PUT ME DOWN". All the boys peck as I reach to pick them up almost every time - I've never had chicks like this before! They really just make me laugh though as they are such tiny little bundles of fluff and if I didn't see the pecks, I'd never know they happened, they hurt so little. I'm so excited for spring and all of my new "incubators".