Consolidated Kansas

[chicken danz]

CHICKENS IN EMPORIA ~~~~~ I just heard on the radio that they are discussing if chickens will be allowed in the city limits. If I heard right, the major is for it but several others on the commision are not. Only 3 residents have applied for permits.

IF YOU HAVE AN INTEREST IN CHICKENS IN EMPORIA, NOW IS THE TIME TO SPEAK UP!!!!!!!!!

They outlawed chickens years ago when the people doing the chicken fighting were raising chickens in large quantities in backyards.

Do you know if there is someone we can contact to give input? Of course I don't live there but I know lots of people who do and would love to have a few hens. It would be good for my business as well. I'd love to give some input. If we can get an email or something I'd appreciate any of you that could write to support it. I wonder why they just didn't disallow roosters to stop the cock fighting? I remember when that was an issue. They still do it but in a secret location. There is a family north of Emporia that is still raising and fighting birds. They have those blue plastic barrels for housing and I used to see the cocks with a tether on one leg so they could only go a few feet from the plastic barrel.
Congrats on your new babies, chickies duckies.
Sharol, just read your post. I guess that kind of answered my question about the roosters.
I've got another very busy day ahead of me. I sure am sore after yesterday's work. I need to start catching some birds that are going to Missouri tomorrow. I've got some rogue birds who sleep under a camper shell and I need to figure out how to build some panels to enclose it so I can catch a couple of them when they go to bed tonight. It is sitting on saw horses and of course it isn't flush on the edges so I am going to have to be inventive. They are the last of the birds that aren't locked up at night other than some wild ones that sleep in the barn. I'm still trying to figure out how to catch the ones in the barn so I can sell them as meat birds.
I've got to move some birds out of the brooder soon to make room for some more of these babies I have in the house. Hopefully after tomorrow I'll have some room to put them. My houses and pens are sure getting crowded.

 

[Chickies-duckies-etc]

Banning chickens in the city limits certainly did NOT stop the cock fighting. When I drove a taxi, I picked up a passenger just out of the city limits to the east and passed a house that was raising the chickens. They had rows of little wooden boxed with a rooster tied to each one. There were probably many other places as well.

I heard that announcement on KVOE so will call there today to see what other info they have. If a meeting is coming up soon then people need to get organized,

Danz ~ If you can contact as many of the people that you know as you can and get them to contact people they know - get the word out. I don't know anyone in the city that want chickens, but will talk to people I know, maybe they will spread the word also. Part of the battle is won if the major is in favor of chickens in the city.

 

[Kansas Prairie]

Good morning Kansas!

chickies duckies, babies are always fun!

Mommahen, I've been doing a lot of reading on incubators, I think I may try having low humidity for the first few days, then have higher humidity at lock down. Some suggest wet sponges. I wish I had a second incubator for hatching. Hope they all zip out!

Danz, you are super woman, how in the world do you get so much done?

I had a killer head ache yesterday, so I've got some catching up to do around here today. I've got the humidifiers full and pumping out the moisture, it's crazy dry here in SW Kansas. DH is all excited about KSU football and upset about the KC Chiefs & KU mens basketball.

 

[sharol]

Honestly, I suspect there was a bit of racism in the first chicken banning ruling - not intentional but because of the makeup of the current chicken owners at the time. Our plan was to take it to the county commission next, but that didn't happen because of the rural makeup of the county. Our feeling was that the poor birds were being tortured and killed, and we couldn't stop it all, but we could try to at least make it illegal in the city. Of course cock fighting is illegal, but you can't prove the intent of the owners unless they are caught fighting the roosters.

If I had it to do again, knowing what I know now, I would look at different options, but that was maybe 15 years or more ago, and times have changed dramatically.

I'll go to the city meeting and make a case for "pet chickens." I'll even take some pictures of my girls and their coop. At the same time, I'll recommend banning roosters just because of the annoying noise associated with them. Just because I like the sound of a roo crowing, doesn't mean my neighbors would. Where I live, I can hear roosters from 4 different locations and some of them are a half mile away. I'm not sure I would like it if I were next door to 3 or 4 neighbors with roosters especially if they were all like Butch and started crowing in the middle of the night when the moon is full.

 

[checoukan]

Honestly, I suspect there was a bit of racism in the first chicken banning ruling - not intentional but because of the makeup of the current chicken owners at the time. Our plan was to take it to the county commission next, but that didn't happen because of the rural makeup of the county. Our feeling was that the poor birds were being tortured and killed, and we couldn't stop it all, but we could try to at least make it illegal in the city. Of course cock fighting is illegal, but you can't prove the intent of the owners unless they are caught fighting the roosters.

If I had it to do again, knowing what I know now, I would look at different options, but that was maybe 15 years or more ago, and times have changed dramatically.

I'll go to the city meeting and make a case for "pet chickens." I'll even take some pictures of my girls and their coop. At the same time, I'll recommend banning roosters just because of the annoying noise associated with them. Just because I like the sound of a roo crowing, doesn't mean my neighbors would. Where I live, I can hear roosters from 4 different locations and some of them are a half mile away. I'm not sure I would like it if I were next door to 3 or 4 neighbors with roosters especially if they were all like Butch and started crowing in the middle of the night when the moon is full.

I hear ya on the crowing at night with a full Moon!!!!

 

[PrairieChickens]

I don't blame you for not listing your town, I used to not, but I still don't like to put my name. Well, I'm in Allen County too.... obviously. It's nice to meet you.

lol Well, obviously, I don't live in Iola since they don't allow chickens there. XD But yeah... I'm self employed and earn the bulk of my income by selling artwork and such I designed online, so my name is already out there. I try to make it a little harder for people to find me by omitting my actual location, and I ship everything from a PO box. I've been called paranoid by some, but I've already had experiences in the past where someone found where I lived and it wasn't cool at all.

 

[chicken danz]

Banning chickens in the city limits certainly did NOT stop the cock fighting. When I drove a taxi, I picked up a passenger just out of the city limits to the east and passed a house that was raising the chickens. They had rows of little wooden boxed with a rooster tied to each one. There were probably many other places as well.

I heard that announcement on KVOE so will call there today to see what other info they have. If a meeting is coming up soon then people need to get organized,

Danz ~ If you can contact as many of the people that you know as you can and get them to contact people they know - get the word out. I don't know anyone in the city that want chickens, but will talk to people I know, maybe they will spread the word also. Part of the battle is won if the major is in favor of chickens in the city.

I think if a notice were posted at Bluestem and Sutherlands and maybe the other feed store there that might help. I don't have any plans to be there again soon unless it is after Thanksgiving.

Good morning Kansas!

chickies duckies, babies are always fun!

Mommahen, I've been doing a lot of reading on incubators, I think I may try having low humidity for the first few days, then have higher humidity at lock down. Some suggest wet sponges. I wish I had a second incubator for hatching. Hope they all zip out!
I used to use sponges but like wet wash rags better. The sponges tend to keep more moisture in them where the rags tend to release it. Just based on what I have seen with the humidity levels.

Danz, you are super woman, how in the world do you get so much done?
I simply don't take care of the things that I should. Like doing laundry, dusting, sweeping floors, etc.

I had a killer head ache yesterday, so I've got some catching up to do around here today. I've got the humidifiers full and pumping out the moisture, it's crazy dry here in SW Kansas. DH is all excited about KSU football and upset about the KC Chiefs & KU mens basketball.

We've been running a vaporizer at night just to add to the humidity.

Honestly, I suspect there was a bit of racism in the first chicken banning ruling - not intentional but because of the makeup of the current chicken owners at the time. Our plan was to take it to the county commission next, but that didn't happen because of the rural makeup of the county. Our feeling was that the poor birds were being tortured and killed, and we couldn't stop it all, but we could try to at least make it illegal in the city. Of course cock fighting is illegal, but you can't prove the intent of the owners unless they are caught fighting the roosters.

If I had it to do again, knowing what I know now, I would look at different options, but that was maybe 15 years or more ago, and times have changed dramatically.

I'll go to the city meeting and make a case for "pet chickens." I'll even take some pictures of my girls and their coop. At the same time, I'll recommend banning roosters just because of the annoying noise associated with them. Just because I like the sound of a roo crowing, doesn't mean my neighbors would. Where I live, I can hear roosters from 4 different locations and some of them are a half mile away. I'm not sure I would like it if I were next door to 3 or 4 neighbors with roosters especially if they were all like Butch and started crowing in the middle of the night when the moon is full.

I think it is still an ethnic problem judging from the people I see living where they are raising the fighting birds. It's so blaringly obvious. I don't see any one else tying roosters by the leg and housing them separately. It must be profitable. These people moved out of the Emporia just when the chickens got banned. They started with rows of barrels and tied up roosters and a tiny old trailer house. Then they added a second trailer, then built on. I am thinking the last time I went by there they had built a new home. Not sure, but it seems that is what I saw.
I think it is awful. Every time I see game bird eggs for sale, especially if they show a picture of a tethered rooster it upsets me. You can tell the ones by what picture they post often. Obviously it's still a popular sport. To me it falls in the same realm as dog fighting. I saw the results of that when I lived in OKC. They would just tie up a severely injured dog and let it die if it didn't die in the fight. I've also seen silver spikes for sale that they put on the chickens real spikes so they can cut up the opponent even more. That is just totally sick.

 

[Chickies-duckies-etc]

Honestly, I suspect there was a bit of racism in the first chicken banning ruling - not intentional but because of the makeup of the current chicken owners at the time. Our plan was to take it to the county commission next, but that didn't happen because of the rural makeup of the county. Our feeling was that the poor birds were being tortured and killed, and we couldn't stop it all, but we could try to at least make it illegal in the city. Of course cock fighting is illegal, but you can't prove the intent of the owners unless they are caught fighting the roosters.

If I had it to do again, knowing what I know now, I would look at different options, but that was maybe 15 years or more ago, and times have changed dramatically.

I'll go to the city meeting and make a case for "pet chickens." I'll even take some pictures of my girls and their coop. At the same time, I'll recommend banning roosters just because of the annoying noise associated with them. Just because I like the sound of a roo crowing, doesn't mean my neighbors would. Where I live, I can hear roosters from 4 different locations and some of them are a half mile away. I'm not sure I would like it if I were next door to 3 or 4 neighbors with roosters especially if they were all like Butch and started crowing in the middle of the night when the moon is full.

May I suggest, instead of proposing banning roos from the beginning, leave that as an option if "the noise factor" is one of the contributing factors to leave the ban? I don't remember for sure, but I think Emporia has a "noise" clause anyway. If so, a bothersome roo could be handled with that and a quiet, one that is not bothering anyone could be kept legally. Something to think about?

 

[PrairieChickens]

I'd rather hear a crowing rooster than a barking dog... the latter is far more likely to wake me up and keep me awake if it starts up at the middle of the night.

 

[chicken danz]

I think the issue of cock fighting still needs to be considered along with everything else. A limit of one rooster and so many hens would be a wise way to go. And the noise clause could always be added as well. You really don't need more than one rooster if you have a small flock anyway.
I love hearing my roosters and I agree it is more pleasant than a yippy barking dog. But in a town you have to be respectful of your neighbors wishes too. That is exactly why I love living in the country. Even though my nearest neighbor is about 1/2 mile away they can hear my roosters. Thank goodness they enjoy the sound.