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Convincing Dad

Discussion in 'Family Life - Stories, Pictures & Updates' started by Sword, Feb 17, 2011.

  1. Sword

    Sword Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Hi guys! I've got plans for bantams and nigerian goats all ready to go, but I have to convince my dad that there are more pros than cons. I'm gonna be arguing with a lawyer, so I want to be well prepared. Here's my list so far:
    Pros:
    1) Goats would take care of the buckthorn bushes that are ever encroaching the yard.
    2) We'd get fresh delicious milk (need to convince him goats milk isn't vile)
    3) We wouldn't have to pay to have weed killer sprayed in the yard (I hate that)
    4) We wouldn't have to pay for fertilizer for the gardens
    5) We would get fresh little eggs from the bantams
    6) Some of my younger siblings could try out 4-H
    7) That nigerian dwarf kids aren't nearly as hard to sell as the unwanted kittens people keep dumping in our yard (except wethers)
    8) That bantams would eat the dog ticks that infest our yard by the hundreds every spring (my friend does this and it works)
    9) We could actually use our two acres of thick, nice grass and weeds for something

    Cons:
    1) high start up costs
    2) We'd have to buy hay and feed
    3) We'd have to sell wethers and extra roosters, which might be hard.
    4) Relatives will probably tease him

    You guys got any more?
     
    Last edited: Feb 17, 2011
  2. Captain Carrot

    Captain Carrot Chillin' With My Peeps

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    You wouldn't have to sell roosters and bucks...you could eat them.

    Possible smells and noises.

    Try and convince him about a few bantams, just three or four to start out with. Hopefully he'll get the chicken bug, and let you get more. Then the goats shouldn't be too much trouble.

    The nigerian dwarfs are nice goats, but the amount of milk you get from the time spent milking twice a day isn't really worth it. You'd have more productive animals if you crossed a buck with a larger doe. That would make a better carcase too. Goat meat tastes great, not very much different than lamb...kind of a beefy lamb.
     
  3. corn pecker

    corn pecker Out Of The Brooder

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    How about this for Pro's you will be researching and learning about new animals,learning responsibility, probably meeting new people with the same interest. Which in turn means that you will be spending more time with the new animals and less time doing unproductive things and getting into troulble. Exercise, baby goats love to run and play so you and the other kids will be out of his hair and outside more. As far as the Con's turn them around. Start up wouldn't be as high if you started with one already bread goat and maybe one rooster and a hen. You could eat the extra roosters you couldn't sell and as far as your Dad being teased, it will teach him how to stick up for himself.[​IMG] If that doesen't work maybe you could just get one or the other to break him in slow.

    [​IMG] Good luck let us know how it goes.
     
  4. Epona142

    Epona142 Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Quote:Really? From a couple of Nigerians, I get more than enough milk for my family. Course there's only three of us but we haven't had to buy milk when we've got lactating does in years. And mine aren't even top of the line milkers.
     
  5. key west chick

    key west chick Chillin' With My Peeps

    May 31, 2008
    Gainesville, GA
    For their size, Nigi's produce plenty of milk. Especially if they are from milking lines. Unless you get one with bad teat placement, its well worth it!
     
  6. seismic wonder2

    seismic wonder2 I got mad ninja skills

    Feb 3, 2007
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    Why would you want roosters to begin with?
    Just go woth three hens, for the eggs.

    Maybe compare how much eggs cost, then mention you could get three eggs a day for the cost of grain/feed. Home eggs are healthier.
     
  7. wegotchickens

    wegotchickens DownSouth D'Uccles & Silkies

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    Start with the chicken arguments. Look up the research done by Mother Earth News on how much healthier your 'homegrown' eggs con be compared to storebought eggs. Get 3 standard hens for the eggs, and a few bantams as pets / 4h birds for your siblings.

    When the chickens are successful and he's seeing the benefits and your commitment, then talk to him about the larger and more time-intensive goats.
     
  8. corn pecker

    corn pecker Out Of The Brooder

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    Hey Sword, any luck??
     

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