Coping with Blackhead

[casportpony]

Poults hatched on May 5 should not be on Safeguard, nor any wormer. It could kill them.

If they have been on dirt since they hatched it is possible that they do have worms, and as far as I know, Safeguard can be used to treat any age poultry.

They also should not have blackhead already.

If raised in a brooder, not on dirt, this is true, but if they been out on dirt, or under a broody, they can get blackhead at a very young age.

The medication, Metronidazole, will kill poults that age.

Really? I've used it to treat blackhead in young ones and it didn't kill them, but I weigh them and give the proper, safe dose.

Blackhead kills in about 48 hours so if they did have it, they’d be dead already

Sometimes it kills quickly, sometimes it does not.

 

[casportpony]

Hello everyone.
I am a total newbie here. Let me say, this site is awesome. I am impressed with the live community here conversing and sharing.
Now I too, have a problem. It could be blackhead disease.

To date: my turkeys are Broad breast bronze, born on May 5th. Are eating and drinking and seem to be ok. However, I began to see yellow poo.
So, on May 31st I put them on Safe-Guard medicated food for worms. Mixed per instructions into their gamebird crumbles. Then I read a post about putting them on Corid. So, on June 1st they have also been recieving that too.

Now some of the time the poo is normal and then still this yellow.
Do i need to find the blackhead medication asap and put them on that?

Questions for you.
How long have they been on dirt?
Do you have a scale that you can weigh them on?
All young poultry and waterfowl should make daily weight gains, and any lack of weight gain or weight loss means something is wrong.

I've seen a lot of blackhead here, and that poop does not look like blackhead poop to me, to me it looks like coccidiosis or wormy poop. Any chance you can have a vet or lab test it for worms, coccidia, and blackhead?

If not, I would continue with the Corid, weigh each one, then weigh them all in a few days, and if you're on the right treatment track, those foamy yellow poops should stop and they will be gaining weight.

 

[Rosecoral]

Questions for you.
How long have they been on dirt?
Do you have a scale that you can weigh them on?
All young poultry and waterfowl should make daily weight gains, and any lack of weight gain or weight loss means something is wrong.

I've seen a lot of blackhead here, and that poop does not look like blackhead poop to me, to me it looks like coccidiosis or wormy poop. Any chance you can have a vet or lab test it for worms, coccidia, and blackhead?

If not, I would continue with the Corid, weigh each one, then weigh them all in a few days, and if you're on the right treatment track, those foamy yellow poops should stop and they will be gaining weight.

They have been raised in a coop house with dirt floor and pine shavings layered on top. They love to eat the shavings. One wire wall separated them from the baby chicks.
Now they have been moved to their own penned in yard. Which hasn't had any chickens on it.
They have finished the specified treatments for worms and coccidiosis per instructions.
Last night was their first night in new pen.
Seems the yellow poop is slowing way down and i am watching to see if continues to disapear.

 

[Rosecoral]

They have been raised in a coop house with dirt floor and pine shavings layered on top. They love to eat the shavings. One wire wall separated them from the baby chicks.
Now they have been moved to their own penned in yard. Which hasn't had any chickens on it.
They have finished the specified treatments for worms and coccidiosis per instructions.
Last night was their first night in new pen.
Seems the yellow poop is slowing way down and i am watching to see if continues to disapear.

Should i continue with the Corid solution just in case??

 

[cgmccary]

Should i continue with the Corid solution just in case??

If they have been on dirt since they hatched it is possible that they do have worms, and as far as I know, Safeguard can be used to treat any age poultry.

If raised in a brooder, not on dirt, this is true, but if they been out on dirt, or under a broody, they can get blackhead at a very young age.

Really? I've used it to treat blackhead in young ones and it didn't kill them, but I weigh them and give the proper, safe dose.

Sometimes it kills quickly, sometimes it does not.

They can actually have worms out of the egg, 1 day old, but it is roundworms that are on eggshell itself. Chicks, poults and everything on wire in brooders in my basement I use wazine at 4 weeks old but worm JUST ONCE at the early age. I should have been more specific and said the worm (cecal worm) that carries Blackhead should not be in very young poults although yes, blackhead can occur at any age, out of years of raising turkeys, I have never had it in poults in first couple of months, not even on free range with hens. I use broody chicken hens when raising poults some every year & I have never had a poult in first 8 weeks to contract blackhead. Metronidazole (flagyl) is off label use on poultry and it is very hard on the liver. I would never advise giving it to a poult under 2 months of age and then the dosage is small and only for three days. Of course for the past several years, I use oregano oil in the water of young poults unless free range and it prevents blackhead. Using all these at one time is ill advised. It takes 15 to 21 days just for the incubation of the blackhead itself and this would be after contracting the cecal worm.

 

[cgmccary]

Should i continue with the Corid solution just in case??

Corid is a thiamine (vitamin B1) blocker and is used only to prevent or treat coccidiosis. It does nothing for worms, and it does nothing for blackhead. Should you use Corid in case of what exactly?

 

[casportpony]

Should you use Corid in case of what exactly?

The poop looks like coccidiosis poop to me.

 

[casportpony]

It takes 15 to 21 days just for the incubation of the blackhead itself and this would be after contracting the cecal worm.

This is *not* true, they can get it almost immediately from cloacal drinking, that is how four of mine got it when they were less than a week old.

 

[cgmccary]

This is *not* true, they can get it almost immediately from cloacal drinking, that is how four of mine got it when they were less than a week old.

You took them to a lab and had that confirmed? What lab? Show me the report. You know what kills most poults in first four weeks? It is not blackhead and not coccidiosis. Blackhead in the first month is quite rare.

 

[casportpony]

You took them to a lab and had that confirmed? What lab? Show me the report. You know what kills most poults in first four weeks? It is not blackhead and not coccidiosis. Blackhead in the first month is quite rare.

Yes, I had a necropsy done by UC Davis.