Corid treatment question

[CandeeLand]

I’m new to using corid, please forgive my many newbie questions.

We started our hens on corid today.
1) are we able to still give probiotics to them?
2) are we able to give them plain yogurt?
3) are there any food items we should NOT or SHOULD be feeding them during this treatment?
4) the treatment should go for 5-7 days. What are the driving factors to decide the date to end the corid?
5) when should we expect to see signs of improvement in our sick hen and what signs should we watch for?
6) how often should we use corid as a preventative, if at all?
7) is there anything that I should have asked, but didn’t, that I should know about?

We do plan to weigh our sick hen, in order to give her extra drops of straight corid (0.1ml per pound of body weight).

I’m hoping to not do anything to cause the treatment to not have the full effect that’s needed and Lord willing, it’ll help our hen who is sick and prevent the others from getting sick.

Thank you everyone for your wisdom, support and kindness

 

[SueT]

I’m new to using corid, please forgive my many newbie questions.

We started our hens on corid today.
1) are we able to still give probiotics to them?
2) are we able to give them plain yogurt?
3) are there any food items we should NOT or SHOULD be feeding them during this treatment?
4) the treatment should go for 5-7 days. What are the driving factors to decide the date to end the corid?
5) when should we expect to see signs of improvement in our sick hen and what signs should we watch for?
6) how often should we use corid as a preventative, if at all?
7) is there anything that I should have asked, but didn’t, that I should know about?

We do plan to weigh our sick hen, in order to give her extra drops of straight corid (0.1ml per pound of body weight).

I’m hoping to not do anything to cause the treatment to not have the full effect that’s needed and Lord willing, it’ll help our hen who is sick and prevent the others from getting sick.

Thank you everyone for your wisdom, support and kindness

Corid is not an antibiotic, so you can still give your probiotics.
What are your hen's symptoms?
Corid is a thiamine blocker specifically to treat coccidiosis.
If one chicken shows symptoms of diarrhea, especially bloody diarrhea, I treat the whole flock. I use the liquid in the water. Everyone gets it, there is no alternate water supply.
I put 1/2 teaspoon per gallon for preventative, and 2 teaspoon per gallon for active symptoms. Check this BYC link for more detailed directions:
https://www.backyardchickens.com/threads/updated-corid-and-amprol-amprolium-dosing.818879/

 

[CandeeLand]

Corid is not an antibiotic, so you can still give your probiotics.
What are your hen's symptoms?
Corid is a thiamine blocker specifically to treat coccidiosis.
If one chicken shows symptoms of diarrhea, especially bloody diarrhea, I treat the whole flock. I use the liquid in the water. Everyone gets it, there is no alternate water supply.
I put 1/2 teaspoon per gallon for preventative, and 2 teaspoon per gallon for active symptoms. Check this BYC link for more detailed directions:
https://www.backyardchickens.com/threads/updated-corid-and-amprol-amprolium-dosing.818879/

She's had watery green poo (Diarrhea) for a couple of weeks, weight loss, listless, loss of appetite (empty crop), ruffled feathers and no egg laying.

We are following these measurements (we have from another post on here about my hens) for corid usage:
2tsp per gallon, for the flock, and 2 drops orally per day for her, plus her drinking water dosage.
Corid 9.6% liquid - Do not dilute
Give 0.1 ml per pound of body weight orally once a day for 1-3 days.

 

[CandeeLand]

Corid is not an antibiotic, so you can still give your probiotics.
What are your hen's symptoms?
Corid is a thiamine blocker specifically to treat coccidiosis.
If one chicken shows symptoms of diarrhea, especially bloody diarrhea, I treat the whole flock. I use the liquid in the water. Everyone gets it, there is no alternate water supply.
I put 1/2 teaspoon per gallon for preventative, and 2 teaspoon per gallon for active symptoms. Check this BYC link for more detailed directions:
https://www.backyardchickens.com/threads/updated-corid-and-amprol-amprolium-dosing.818879/

Thank you for the very helpful link

 

[coach723]

Corid is very safe, generally if they are slow to recover then I would do the full 7 days. It's not going to hurt anything. Usually you will see some signs of improvement by 48 - 72 hours, it depends on the strain of coccidia present, if that's what it is. Some can take longer. It's really not necessary to do 'preventative treatments', just treat if there are symptoms of coccidiosis. The medications only work to kill coccidia that is present, it won't prevent them from getting it. Probiotics are fine as long as they don't contain vitamins as well, some brands do. Just make sure it doesn't contain any thiamine. Yogurt can actually upset the digestive system if too much is given so I would limit that to a tablespoon a day.
How old is your hen? Do you know when she last laid? Usually older birds have some resistance to the coccidia in the environment, unless a new strain is brought in by new birds or they are moved to new ground,or if they are ill with something else that has weakened them (you will not hurt her by treating to make sure, it's very safe).
Is she eating and drinking? Is her crop function normal?

 

[Wyorp Rock]

We started our hens on corid today.

3) are there any food items we should NOT or SHOULD be feeding them during this treatment?
4) the treatment should go for 5-7 days. What are the driving factors to decide the date to end the corid?
5) when should we expect to see signs of improvement in our sick hen and what signs should we watch for?

We do plan to weigh our sick hen, in order to give her extra drops of straight corid (0.1ml per pound of body weight).

She's had watery green poo (Diarrhea) for a couple of weeks, weight loss, listless, loss of appetite (empty crop), ruffled feathers and no egg laying.

We are following these measurements (we have from another post on here about my hens) for corid usage:
2tsp per gallon, for the flock, and 2 drops orally per day for her, plus her drinking water dosage.
Corid 9.6% liquid - Do not dilute
Give 0.1 ml per pound of body weight orally once a day for 1-3 days.

What symptoms are you seeing in your hens?

You have TWO ongoing threads about a hen with FLYSTRIKE. Are you trying to treat the Flystrike with Corid or do you have another ongoing issue?

A hen that has Flystrike can be very sick or have an underlying condition. This may be the reason she's having such runny poop. Corid is not antibiotic and will not treat infections. If the runny poop is due to infection from the Flystrike or underlying condition, then consider giving an antibiotic.

https://www.backyardchickens.com/threads/2yr-old-chicken-loose-poo.1625644/page-3#post-27803404
https://www.backyardchickens.com/threads/flystrike-help-needed-please.1627723/#post-27801148


You has asked for clarification on anther thread (quoting me) for directions on giving Corid. I gave that to you.
I assume with your reply you were confused about dosing since you keep bouncing from a couple of drops to 0.10ml per pound of weight as a direct oral drench. I'm not sure if you saw the reply or not. The OP in the other thread was ALREADY giving the Correct amount in the water, they were just giving a "couple of drops" for a boost. I was giving that OP correct directions for the oral drench. Reading a thread and posts as a whole will give you better context of what is being suggested.

There's TWO different things:::

Mixed Corid water - this is mixed in the drinking water and should be the only source of drinking water for the bird or flock for 5-7 days.

Direct Oral Drench - this is a Direct Dose given to a sick bird when you feel they are not thriving and they are not drinking the mixed Corid water very well. This direct dose is given 2x a day for 3 days. This is IN ADDITION to the bird drinking the Mixed Corid water and if they are not drinking, then the mixed water should be syringed or tubed into the bird to ensure they are getting medication and kept hydrated.

Hope this clears things up.

Liquid Corid dose is 2tsp or Powdered Corid Dose is 1 1/2tsp per gallon of water given for 5-7 days as the only source of drinking water.
Do not add any extra vitamins/electrolytes that contain B1(Thiamine) to food or water during the course of treatment.

https://www.backyardchickens.com/threads/sick-hen-coccidiosis.1617077/page-2

Thank you. The Corid should be arriving today... We will weigh our sick hen and give her doses, plus the water.

This was the dosage I read:
Direct oral drench of Liquid Corid (Amprolium) is 0.10ml per pound of weight given orally 1-2 times a day for 3 days in a row. So you may need to give more than a couple of drops.

My reply/post to her was to give direct oral drench directions since she was already giving the correct dosing for Corid in the drinking water per her first post, so I didn't see a need to repeat that.

 

[CandeeLand]

Corid is very safe, generally if they are slow to recover then I would do the full 7 days. It's not going to hurt anything. Usually you will see some signs of improvement by 48 - 72 hours, it depends on the strain of coccidia present, if that's what it is. Some can take longer. It's really not necessary to do 'preventative treatments', just treat if there are symptoms of coccidiosis. The medications only work to kill coccidia that is present, it won't prevent them from getting it. Probiotics are fine as long as they don't contain vitamins as well, some brands do. Just make sure it doesn't contain any thiamine. Yogurt can actually upset the digestive system if too much is given so I would limit that to a tablespoon a day.
How old is your hen? Do you know when she last laid? Usually older birds have some resistance to the coccidia in the environment, unless a new strain is brought in by new birds or they are moved to new ground,or if they are ill with something else that has weakened them (you will not hurt her by treating to make sure, it's very safe).
Is she eating and drinking? Is her crop function normal?

She just turned 2yrs and when she finished her first molt, her eggs came to a stop, then we would get 1 a month (last egg was around March maybe) and thought that by spring/early Summer she’d start laying again, but then she stated getting weak and then diarrhea, then flystrike to top it all off. Flystrike is mending well, we caught it quickly (1-2 days of it). So now we’re back to dealing with her being sick. The diarrhea seems to have calmed down since being inside the house.

Her crop seems always empty, to the point of not finding it sometimes.

She eats a little and seems to drink often.

She is about 5.6 pounds today and we gave her some corid in a dropper.

Thank you for your wisdom and support

 

[CandeeLand]

What symptoms are you seeing in your hens?

You have TWO ongoing threads about a hen with FLYSTRIKE. Are you trying to treat the Flystrike with Corid or do you have another ongoing issue?

A hen that has Flystrike can be very sick or have an underlying condition. This may be the reason she's having such runny poop. Corid is not antibiotic and will not treat infections. If the runny poop is due to infection from the Flystrike or underlying condition, then consider giving an antibiotic.

https://www.backyardchickens.com/threads/2yr-old-chicken-loose-poo.1625644/page-3#post-27803404
https://www.backyardchickens.com/threads/flystrike-help-needed-please.1627723/#post-27801148


You has asked for clarification on anther thread (quoting me) for directions on giving Corid. I gave that to you.
I assume with your reply you were confused about dosing since you keep bouncing from a couple of drops to 0.10ml per pound of weight as a direct oral drench. I'm not sure if you saw the reply or not. The OP in the other thread was ALREADY giving the Correct amount in the water, they were just giving a "couple of drops" for a boost. I was giving that OP correct directions for the oral drench. Reading a thread and posts as a whole will give you better context of what is being suggested.

There's TWO different things:::

Mixed Corid water - this is mixed in the drinking water and should be the only source of drinking water for the bird or flock for 5-7 days.

Direct Oral Drench - this is a Direct Dose given to a sick bird when you feel they are not thriving and they are not drinking the mixed Corid water very well. This direct dose is given 2x a day for 3 days. This is IN ADDITION to the bird drinking the Mixed Corid water and if they are not drinking, then the mixed water should be syringed or tubed into the bird to ensure they are getting medication and kept hydrated.

Hope this clears things up.

https://www.backyardchickens.com/threads/sick-hen-coccidiosis.1617077/page-2

Your help on the previous post was a huge help in us deciding to try corid. Thank you.

Our girl was sick before the flystrike happened. We have that issue cared for better now.

We’re now focusing on her being sick and doing what is possible to help her.

I hope I did nothing to offend you, it was never my intention. I’m trying to do all of this while recovering from knee replacement surgery 1 week ago. My poor husband now has 2 patients to care for.

 

[coach723]

I did a quick look at the other threads that @Wyorp Rock linked. I think it's pretty likely that this may be a reproductive problem. When they start getting chronically dirty butts, aren't laying, aren't eating well, etc. that is a pretty common cause. When you have ruled out the other major causes then likely it is that. Which particular one is hard to say, it's often not known until the pass and a necropsy is done.

 

[CandeeLand]

I did a quick look at the other threads that @Wyorp Rock linked. I think it's pretty likely that this may be a reproductive problem. When they start getting chronically dirty butts, aren't laying, aren't eating well, etc. that is a pretty common cause. When you have ruled out the other major causes then likely it is that. Which particular one is hard to say, it's often not known until the pass and a necropsy is done.

Thank you. We’ll see if she recovers and if not, my husband will have to dispatch her. We want to give her a fighting chance.